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18 March 2012, 21:24
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Country: Ireland
Town: Cork
Boat name: Lady B
Make: BWM
Length: 5m +
Engine: Outboard 4S 80hp
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Help with Steering System (rotary helm)
Hi guys,
Was hoping someone can give me a bit of advice on the rib steering system. I launched my rib today and noticed the steering was very stiff. Having looked behind the stewing wheel in the console I noticed that the rotary helm cover was loose (cast metal/aluminium part) . I took this off to check and found that one of the spindles for locating one of the internal cogs had sheared off.
My question really is can I just replace this part (think its called the rotary helm) or is it a complete unit including the cable all the way back to the engine?
Thanks guys!
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18 March 2012, 22:55
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Country: UK - England
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Probably cheaper and far easier to replace the whole helm unit. They are around the £100 area depending which type you go for.
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19 March 2012, 19:04
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Country: Ireland
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Thanks turbo. Does the unit not separate behind the steering wheel? Any recommendations for type for a rib. Have an 70hp on the back of a 5.5mt rib.
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19 March 2012, 19:23
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You'll need to replace it with an identical unit, or you'll also have to purchase a new cable.
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19 March 2012, 21:06
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Quote:
Originally Posted by masterfuji
Thanks turbo. Does the unit not separate behind the steering wheel? Any recommendations for type for a rib. Have an 70hp on the back of a 5.5mt rib.
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It does separate but i dont now if you can get the parts (im sure you can from somewhere) but usually its just a replacement helm. For your HP make sure it is using what is now called an M66 cable which is for 50hp and over.
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19 March 2012, 21:55
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Country: Ireland
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Boat name: Lady B
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Thanks guys.
Dirk,
It is a teleflex cable so must be one of their helms I assume.
Good point Turbo. I will check tat out to make sure!
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20 March 2012, 00:57
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Thanks guys.
I will check the cable Turbo bus as far as I know the cable was supplied with the engine through a main dealer. This was before I took ownership. Is there an easy way to identify the helm type/part no. In position while still installed i can't identify it!
Thanks
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20 March 2012, 10:44
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Aquafax Catalogue
Have a look at the Aquafax website, it shows a picture of the two main types.
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20 March 2012, 11:07
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Aquafax are great, but they're Uflex dealers, if your after Teleflex, have a look here... Bainbridge Marine > Mechanical
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20 March 2012, 11:41
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Thanks guys. The cable is deffo a teleflex but based on the design of the cog system which is the planetary layout it seems to be a ultraflex helm. Armed with this knowledge and after a YouTube review of how to install the cable I will try and remove the helm tonight and at least I can see what I am at then!
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22 March 2012, 01:14
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Right guys.
Getting there but still no final decision. The cable is a teleflex SSC6214 (14ft) but based on the design of the helm being planetary I am convinced it is like a ultraflex rotech type. Would it be common for the teleflex cable to fit the ultraflex helm? Also is the SSC6214 up to the M66 standard?
I like the planetary design and would probably opt to go that way if I cannot mix and match.
At least I get my new battery tomorrow so at least I am making progress. :-)
Thanks in advance.
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22 March 2012, 09:27
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Teleflex do a planetary helm, although I don't know if it's compatible with your cable. Has yours got Quick Connect?
Here's a bit more info http://teleflex.ru/upload/files/cata...20Steering.pdf
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22 March 2012, 12:12
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Cheers Dirk. Ya it has a quick connect system. The pic below shows the shaft which looks different to the teleflex ones. Maybe they are all interchangable.
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22 March 2012, 13:14
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any good was ok replaced with hydrulic
Case of Becks plus 6.00 next day p+p
doug
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22 March 2012, 13:20
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Cheers Doug,
It looks different again. The spindle for the steering wheel is centred on my helm and with the space I have in the console I am nearly stuck with doing that again.
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