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30 January 2014, 22:24
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Originally Posted by Ribandmotorhome
I'm getting fed up of the admin people always moaning and having an attitude on here.
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Go find the 'kill cord' thread and read all of it. Come back in 2 weeks when you've finished, and you'll understand why.
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30 January 2014, 22:27
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#162
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Originally Posted by Ribandmotorhome
I'm getting fed up of the admin people always moaning and having an attitude on here.
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Really? I find very fair on the whole.
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30 January 2014, 22:28
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#163
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ribandmotorhome
I'm getting fed up of the admin people always moaning and having an attitude on here.
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30 January 2014, 22:30
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Legislation who's for.......
And who's against.....
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30 January 2014, 22:43
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OK, if we really have to revisit this thread, READ THE WHOLE THING BEFORE POSTING.
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30 January 2014, 22:52
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kerny
Legislation who's for.......
And who's against.....
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Really! I thought we all voted for and against before.
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30 January 2014, 22:57
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oh right. didn't realise you were in the business of manipulating conversations.
I cant see how to remove my profile from the site, please do it now for me.
Absolutely no point being on here having to worry and look over my shoulder as to weather the way a conversation naturally develops is deemed acceptable or worthwhile by the admin.
I will come back in 10 minutes and check I have been removed.
Regards.
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30 January 2014, 22:59
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#168
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No. You're not allowed to leave.
Ever.
Muahahahaa....
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30 January 2014, 23:03
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ribandmotorhome
oh right. didn't realise you were in the business of manipulating conversations.
I cant see how to remove my profile from the site, please do it now for me.
Absolutely no point being on here having to worry and look over my shoulder as to weather the way a conversation naturally develops is deemed acceptable or worthwhile by the admin.
I will come back in 10 minutes and check I have been removed.
Regards.
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But we've just upgraded the servers to cope with the huge extra volume of posts since you joined.
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30 January 2014, 23:04
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Originally Posted by Nos4r2
No. You're not allowed to leave.
Ever.
Muahahahaa....
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30 January 2014, 23:05
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Does he want to buy a pedalo?
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30 January 2014, 23:07
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This boy reminds me of SIMCAL, and he was a 1st class b.....d !!
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30 January 2014, 23:11
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Originally Posted by teamplonker
Really! I thought we all voted for and against before.
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It's a piss take Rodney... you plonker
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30 January 2014, 23:16
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kerny
It's a piss take Rodney... you plonker
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31 January 2014, 08:17
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To be fair I can see admins point, which ain't often, he was just trying to help with your enquiry, we have been though this all before and what you are covering is old ground for some of us, it would give you a better informed opinion if you read the old thread, I doubt very much if you have thought of something that the old thread never covered but you could add to it thread if you have
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31 January 2014, 08:52
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nos4r2
No. You're not allowed to leave.
Ever.
Muahahahaa....
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..........once, I was a happy, well balanced bloke with a stable family life & my own small business..................then I found Ribnet......you'll never leave
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31 January 2014, 14:53
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pikey Dave
I have a killcord, it's cheap, reliable & works. Nothing is idiot proof, there's always a better class of idiot. This subject has been done to death & the conclusion...........................use your killcord, simples
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In your opinion.
The MAIB report has very little to offer that wasn't within the range of likely conclusions. It comes as no surprise to read that the owner and his wife were not reckless and irresponsible (as some suggested) but were simply unlucky enough to be in the wrong place when all of the holes in the Swiss cheese lined up. The errors they made were no more serious than are made by many, perhaps a substantial majority of, boat owners from time to time.
The self-evident fact is that the kill cord safety system did not work for the Milligans. The fact that it would have worked if they had used it does not invalidate that conclusion. An alternative or additional system may have provided an additional defence that would have prevented the accident.
The MAIB way forward - ensuring that use of the kill cord becomes "second nature" is simply not going to happen in a large number of cases. No action will become 'second nature' unless the circumstances in which it is to be performed occur frequently enough for habit to develop.
Second nature may develop in the case of a pro user but unlikely in the case of a leisure user who is on the water, on average, once a month or less.
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31 January 2014, 15:41
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Member
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Observer
In your opinion.
The MAIB report has very little to offer that wasn't within the range of likely conclusions. It comes as no surprise to read that the owner and his wife were not reckless and irresponsible (as some suggested) but were simply unlucky enough to be in the wrong place when all of the holes in the Swiss cheese lined up. The errors they made were no more serious than are made by many, perhaps a substantial majority of, boat owners from time to time.
The self-evident fact is that the kill cord safety system did not work for the Milligans. The fact that it would have worked if they had used it does not invalidate that conclusion. An alternative or additional system may have provided an additional defence that would have prevented the accident.
The MAIB way forward - ensuring that use of the kill cord becomes "second nature" is simply not going to happen in a large number of cases. No action will become 'second nature' unless the circumstances in which it is to be performed occur frequently enough for habit to develop.
Second nature may develop in the case of a pro user but unlikely in the case of a leisure user who is on the water, on average, once a month or less.
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I would say that my statement was based on fact rather than opinion. Kill cords are cheap & reliable if used correctly, much like seat belts & lifejackets. No one has yet proposed a viable alternative to the killcord that doesn't depend on either fanciful electronics or concepts, or hideous amounts of money. Most, if not all of the reasonable alternatives involve some form of user interaction, which brings us back to the killcord. If you read the whole thread, you'll see that all the arguments are circular & end up back at the killcord. The weak link in the system is the organic lump between the seat & the wheel, factor that out & you might have a chance, but whilst ever that variable exists in the equation there will always be the potential for collateral damage. As I said, there's always a better class of idiot & that includes me, I'm on record saying that I have forgotten to use the KC on more than one occasion. Show me a system that's idiotfool proof, reliable, affordable & I'm first in the queue
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31 January 2014, 15:49
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#179
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Member
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ribandmotorhome
oh right. didn't realise you were in the business of manipulating conversations.
I cant see how to remove my profile from the site, please do it now for me.
Absolutely no point being on here having to worry and look over my shoulder as to weather the way a conversation naturally develops is deemed acceptable or worthwhile by the admin.
I will come back in 10 minutes and check I have been removed.
Regards.
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I prefer it when they threaten to spank you - they did that to me earlier. Oooh shiver me timbers - takes me back to me Navy days!
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31 January 2014, 15:51
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#180
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Member
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Quote:
Originally Posted by indaba1991
I prefer it when they threaten to spank you - they did that to me earlier. Oooh shiver me timbers - takes me back to me Navy days!
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Nothing wrong with a damn good thrashing, never did me any harm, harumff
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