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24 July 2017, 14:12
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Honwave T40 - Cant inflate!?
Hi all,
I've just bought a Honwave T40 and the tubes and keel are way under pressure and need some air! I've tried to pump them up with the foot pump that came with the boat (is un-used and is the genuine Honda pump with the Halkey Roberts type valve etc) but I cant get it to seal on the valve of the boat. No matter what I do I cant get it to seal and there's more air coming out than I can get it there! Any advice would be greatly appreciated.....
Has anyone else had this issue and do I need a connecting piece or additional 'washer' etc?
Thanks in advance.
Mark
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24 July 2017, 14:26
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Hi & welcome. If it's a genuine Honwave it's a simple bayonet twist fit, only the aftermarket ones sold as replacements require fitting of washers. There should be no need to depress and twist the centre of the valve to inflate only to deflate.
Can you post a picture of the end that you're using ?
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25 July 2017, 20:19
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Originally Posted by paddlers
Hi & welcome. If it's a genuine Honwave it's a simple bayonet twist fit, only the aftermarket ones sold as replacements require fitting of washers. There should be no need to depress and twist the centre of the valve to inflate only to deflate.
Can you post a picture of the end that you're using ?
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Hi thanks for the reply. Had another look at the pump and sure it's a genuine one but have attached a couple of pics.... thanks again
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25 July 2017, 20:28
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this fitting works on my honwave no bother, just checking but you've got the knurled centre pin in the closed position right?
Push in clockwise twist (bayonet like)to open, push in anti clockwise twist to close
Centre of the valve seals with internal pressure pushing outwards, let's forced air go in via pump
Halkey Manometer profile image attached
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25 July 2017, 20:33
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Looks identical to mine. The valve should seal itself automatically. I've no answer to why it isn't unless the centre is depressed and not functioning. If you look online these things are usually very simple & reliable. I use one of the Sevylor 12 v electric pumps for speed but the foot pump is a good standby.
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25 July 2017, 22:26
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Looking at the picture of your pump,the hose is attached to the in section.l think to inflate you connect to the hole marked lp (low pressure) for the tubes then to hp (high pressure) if you have a high pressure floor.
The (in) l think is to deflate, or suck.
Just a thought?
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25 July 2017, 22:51
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Sometimes lubricating the centre of the valve with some silicon spray lube helps it seal properly
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27 July 2017, 07:46
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Honwave T40 - Cant inflate!?
Get yourself a two stage Bravo BST12 HP pump, its all I ever used on my Honwave. Takes 10 mins to full working pressure and makes inflating a pleasure not a chore.
Never used my foot pump!
Here's a link to one :-
https://www.mailspeedmarine.com/brav...-bst-12hp.html
They do a version with built in battery too, the BST12HPBATT for inflating away from the car.
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27 July 2017, 11:05
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If it's a HR valve make sure you don't need the adaptor that has the extended lugs.
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27 July 2017, 11:08
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Honwave T40 - Cant inflate!?
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Originally Posted by jambo
If it's a HR valve make sure you don't need the adaptor that has the extended lugs.
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Thanks All. I've ordered an adaptor cos somebody said there were two different length 'nozzles' - hopefully that's the same as you're saying Jambo [emoji848][emoji106]
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27 July 2017, 11:09
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Honwave T40 - Cant inflate!?
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Originally Posted by markget
Thanks All. I've ordered an adaptor cos somebody said there were two different length 'nozzles' - hopefully that's the same as you're saying Jambo [emoji848][emoji106]
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Like this. Halkey roberts?
https://r.tapatalk.com/shareLink?sha...3&share_type=t
Make sure ask for the lug one
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27 July 2017, 11:16
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Have ordered this one....
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27 July 2017, 11:22
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Now Looking again it does look like the 'shank' does seem to be longer on the adaptor I've ordered (pic with cork washer) than the one I've already got (that isn't working) (pic with blue hose)..... what do you reckon? Attachment 1
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27 July 2017, 11:23
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Quote:
Originally Posted by markget
now looking again it does look like the 'shank' does seem to be longer on the adaptor i've ordered (pic with cork washer) than the one i've already got (that isn't working) (pic with blue hose)..... What do you reckon? Attachment 121062Attachment 1
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27 July 2017, 11:39
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Yep agree does seem longer
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27 July 2017, 11:44
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Thanks - not just my eyes then! Hopefully this should sort it out. I reckon with the shorter nozzle it's depressing the valve itself thus letting air out quicker than I can pump. Having a longer nozzle (ooerr!) should hold off the valve (fingers crossed eh!). Don't really want to have to buy an electric pump as boat lives pumped up on trailer so will never really use an expensive pump. Thanks for your help mate [emoji106]
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27 July 2017, 13:49
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Thanks - not just my eyes then! Hopefully this should sort it out. I reckon with the shorter nozzle it's depressing the valve itself thus letting air out quicker than I can pump. Having a longer nozzle (ooerr!) should hold off the valve (fingers crossed eh!). Don't really want to have to buy an electric pump as boat lives pumped up on trailer so will never really use an expensive pump. Thanks for your help mate [emoji106]
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No problem hope you get sorted[emoji106]
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27 July 2017, 21:31
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Quote:
Originally Posted by phoenixpete
Looking at the picture of your pump,the hose is attached to the in section.l think to inflate you connect to the hole marked lp (low pressure) for the tubes then to hp (high pressure) if you have a high pressure floor.
The (in) l think is to deflate, or suck.
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Did you check what Pheonixpete mentioned above ? I think I agree with him, it looks like you have the hose connected to the inlet rather than outlet,
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07 August 2017, 22:59
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Just wanted to say a big thank you to all that helped me with this and gave advice. Pleased to say I bought a stirrup pump at the weekend and got all the tubes up to the right pressure. Thanks all again [emoji106]
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07 August 2017, 23:23
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Glad your sorted[emoji106][emoji106]
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