Hosepipe Ban

[roycruse]

Originally Posted by codprawn

What happens if you then decide to use the water from your pool to water the garden with using a pump or gravity feed through a hosepipe? Then you decide next week you will fill the pool again .........

The chlorine will kill your grass and plants

[codprawn]

Originally Posted by roycruse

The chlorine will kill your grass and plants

Not if you haven't put any in!!!

If people see you watering your garden with a hosepipe you can tell them you are just emptying your pool.

If people see you filling your pool you tell them it isn't illegal to fill the pool - simple!!!

[CJL]

Why not just go with the spirit of the ban and save water when you can??

The reason the ban is in place is because we all use it wastefully. If we save a bit each, problem solved!!

I mean is it really going to cause that much hardship to 99% of the population?

Chris

[Matt]

Wise words - but I guess people are narked seeing the water companies themselves waste so much through decades or poor maintenance, and joe public being the one who feels the impact.

[CJL]

Originally Posted by MadMat

Wise words - but I guess people are narked seeing the water companies themselves waste so much through decades or poor maintenance, and joe public being the one who feels the impact.

The companies are trying VERY VERY hard to reverse decades of poor investment by the Water Authorities not the limited companies that have inherited them. Thames Water have their share of problems and I would say that they are ahead of the rest of the water companies with investment.

Those people who say build more reservoirs, are happy for them to go ahead, as long as the new reservoirs are not in their back yard!! It become surprisingly difficult to build them if it means somebody has to move or the picturesque valley is flooded.

If you see water leaks you can call the water companies and they will fix leaks but if you don't tell them......how can they know they need fixing??

[codprawn]

Given the amount we now pay for water I think we should all expect a little better service. After all there never used to be hoespipe bans(very rare) and yet we didn't even have water bills years ago!!!

[Matt]

Thought that might get ya going!
P.S. Reservoir, or wind turbine, in my back yard, fine by me!

Originally Posted by CJL

The companies are trying VERY VERY hard to reverse decades of poor investment by the Water Authorities not the limited companies that have inherited them. Thames Water have their share of problems and I would say that they are ahead of the rest of the water companies with investment.

Those people who say build more reservoirs, are happy for them to go ahead, as long as the new reservoirs are not in their back yard!! It become surprisingly difficult to build them if it means somebody has to move or the picturesque valley is flooded.

If you see water leaks you can call the water companies and they will fix leaks but if you don't tell them......how can they know they need fixing??

[Poly]

Originally Posted by codprawn

Given the amount we now pay for water I think we should all expect a little better service. After all there never used to be hosepipe bans(very rare) and yet we didn't even have water bills years ago!!!

Just because you didn't get a bill from a water company doesn't mean you weren't paying for it (you were, probably through your rates if you go back far enough).

Don't complain about your water prices, in relative terms our water in Scotland is more expensive because we didn't privatise our water supplies when you did... ...we don't have hosepipe bans but we do have infrastructure problems.

Actually in terms of value for money think about what you get for your money. Someone collects the water, treats it and tests it to make sure its safe to drink, delivers it right inside your house, then takes all your waste away for you too (and collect all the "run off" from your property and the streets etc and handle this too) and clean that up so they can discharge it to sea within acceptable limits. This probably costs you significantly less than £3/m^3 (1 m^3 = 1000L = 1 tonne of water) Do you think you could do it cheaper?

if you want more investment you need to be prepared to pay more. Don't be naive and suggest they reduce profits - they are a PLC with obligations to return shareholder value, and if PLC's don't make profit your pension won't be worth anything and you will have something else to moan about.

NEIL

[wavelength]

one of the guys on another forum says that in a past ban he got a letter from his water company accepting that he could use a hose to flush and even to wash the boat trailer. Neighbour complained when he did and enforcement officers turned up - showed them the letter and they went off happy - unlike nosey neighbour. So that may be a way forward before the curtains start twitching!

[Matt]

Here, we have a police officer who has contacted the relevant authorities on our behalf, asked the question, and publicly notified us of their response. Can't say fairer than that!

[CJL]

Found this page: TW
FAQ's on the ban and details of who to get in touch with if your question isn't on the list.

Commercial operations do not seem to be affected.

Chris

[Narcosis]

I have just been told by Three Valleys Water that I am not allowed to use my hosepipe for flushing the outboard engine. I explained in detail why this was needed and there best response was use a bucket or a pressure washer.

[John Kennett]

Originally Posted by Narcosis

and there best response was use a bucket or a pressure washer.

So it's OK to use a pressure washer, but not a hose?

In that case, how exactly do you connect the pressure washer to the tap?
Can I use a pressure washer to water the lawn?



John

[Jono]

Originally Posted by John Kennett

....In that case, how exactly do you connect the pressure washer to the tap?
John

... same way I can use mine I suppose...... pick up (suction) pipe into a drum and fire 'er up... no tap connection/feed required...

[Narcosis]

Originally Posted by John Kennett

So it's OK to use a pressure washer, but not a hose?

In that case, how exactly do you connect the pressure washer to the tap?
Can I use a pressure washer to water the lawn?



John

Their line on this was that the pressure washer uses less water than a running hose, I hate to think what there score at school was for physics.

[Jackwabbit]

We live on an island for Christ sake!
We are surrounded by rising sea’s threatening to flood this wonderful land, & yet we are still running out of water
In many parts of the world their only water comes from the sea through desalination plants, nuclear submarines use desalination plants & you can even get small desalination kits to fit in your yacht.
Isn’t the answer to 2 problems staring us in the face?

[CJL]

Originally Posted by Narcosis

Their line on this was that the pressure washer uses less water than a running hose, I hate to think what there score at school was for physics.

I'd go back to them and push this.

You have obviously got a telephone muppet and not somebody who actually knows about the ban!

I've found this as well today:

What is a hosepipe and sprinkler ban?
A hosepipe and sprinkler ban is when a water company prohibits the use of water through a hosepipe or sprinkler to water private gardens or wash private cars. Commercial activities are not affected by these restrictions. This is defined in law in Section 76 of the Water Industry Act 1991.
People who have taken water from their own personal well or borehole are not affected.

What if people use hosepipes to wash patios or fill paddling pools (Which are not covered by the ban)?
The hosepipe ban does only cover washing private cars or watering private gardens, however we all have a responsibility to preserve supplies. The ban has been imposed to protect our supplies and we are advising everyone to remember water is a precious and finite resource.

CJL

[CJL]

Originally Posted by Jackwabbit

We live on an island for Christ sake!
We are surrounded by rising sea’s threatening to flood this wonderful land, & yet we are still running out of water
In many parts of the world their only water comes from the sea through desalination plants, nuclear submarines use desalination plants & you can even get small desalination kits to fit in your yacht.
Isn’t the answer to 2 problems staring us in the face?

Thames Water are hoping to build a desalinisation plant to address an supply defecit of 200 Megalitres a day. They are currently having a public enquiry. Only problem is they are VERY expensive to run and its a very inefficient way of making water drinkable.

CJL

[roycruse]

Originally Posted by Jackwabbit

We live on an island for Christ sake!
We are surrounded by rising sea’s threatening to flood this wonderful land, & yet we are still running out of water
In many parts of the world their only water comes from the sea through desalination plants, nuclear submarines use desalination plants & you can even get small desalination kits to fit in your yacht.
Isn’t the answer to 2 problems staring us in the face?

Are you suggesting that removing the salt from sea water and then drinking / using it - is going to lower the sea level and reduce the chances of flooding.

Err - perhapse you should think about that one for a while ???

[ADS]

Originally Posted by Jackwabbit

Isn’t the answer to 2 problems staring us in the face?

Yes.
Stick to alcohol