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Old 21 October 2005, 14:10   #61
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Aaahh...... a good home.


So, standing or sitting in the rough Tim?
I would settle for safe speed to reduce the lumbar stress.
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Old 21 October 2005, 14:20   #62
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Gotta try harder Cookee. Time for a conditional close.

"You will agree, sir, that our RIB is the only one that will comfortably accommodate your stature, and now we can provide the upholstery that you require, why not write a cheque for the depoist now?"

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I should say that it could easily be made to fit JK's stature!

Also that in both the race and leisure BananaSharks we sit - the seats are of our own (Kittens) design and allow you to stand at slow speeds for greater visibility in the harbour etc, and then sit down for more comfort and security at speed.

For what it's worth I believe at the higher speeds of many current RIBs, a lower centre of gravity and "proper" seats are the way to go ...........
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Agreed. Combined with an enclosed deck, and hard sides.

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For what it's worth I believe at the higher speeds of many current RIBs, a lower centre of gravity and "proper" seats are the way to go ...........
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I have some Ullman seats which really seem to work well as you are sort of sitting and standing at the same time letting the seat take your weight but still bracing with your legs and feet. They really do seem to take the worst of a heavy impact as well as smoothing out the smaller stuff

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Old 21 October 2005, 16:58   #65
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Agreed. Combined with an enclosed deck, and hard sides.
.............. and 5 bars, 3 restaurants, a swimming pool.............
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I have some Ullman seats which really seem to work well as you are sort of sitting and standing at the same time letting the seat take your weight but still bracing with your legs and feet. They really do seem to take the worst of a heavy impact as well as smoothing out the smaller stuff

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Totally agree. This is the best investment i made on my RIB. Every one who test my boat is amazed about how good these things work.

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Old 21 October 2005, 18:47   #67
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Old 21 October 2005, 19:37   #68
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Aaahh...... a good home.


So, standing or sitting in the rough Tim?
I tend to sit 99% of the time , if I need to look behind me I can stand up , if in the rough I still sit/squat low COG (short arse) but bend zee neez to aborb any impact but I do tend to drive around waves not through them as is less damaging to joints and boat. It comes down to personal choice I guess. If you are happy your way then stick to the way that is most comfortable or feels the safest . It's up to the individual. Sports boats (off the shelf) you can only sit and is very secure.
Boats that have a vertical steering wheel then it is better to stand , steering wheels like a car driving position sit . As JK mentioned its all about ergonomics off the shelf ribs are not going to be the best set up for everyone . It depends on how much input the builder lets you have if buying new, decide at the start whether you want to stand or sit and get throttles and steering where it feels right.
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Do you mean the leg "Moules"? Just add a little white wine, butter, garlic etc. Then you'll have marinised your muscles!
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Old 21 October 2005, 20:41   #70
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Nah, I took him home.

Tim, has Kathleen made you an offer for that fetching PINK life jacket yet?
First I heard of it (but I want one!)

Standing on Merlin is helped/made more comfortable/safe by the thought put into seating by my hubby (x) and also by the advice on ergonomical design by Mark H. (Sir ) The wraparounds feel nicely secure and provide great support both standing and sitting. He also thought through the seating to suit moi especially and tapered the jockeys (which are also slightly elongated). Fair play to the guys at Solent RIBs for taking bespoke service to new heights.

Depends on the boat, really. And the design. And visibility etc.

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The jockeys on the Blue Marlin are quite 'grippable' with your legs if things get a bit wobbly - but this generally only happens when I don't have any paying ballast on board, and I forget.

The nearest I've got to being thrown out was when I judged it was too rough for paying punters, but thought I'd go out for a play anyway and played chicken with the ALB. Everyone was waving at everyone else (in a pleasant stylee), until I hit it's wake, which was like a brick wall, and it launched us straight up into the air.

My bilge alarm seemed to go off for quite some time (it tends to do that when weightless), I then held on to the steering wheel and throttle very tightly, and was then re-introduced to the padding of my seat rather rapidly.

I'm glad I was standing.

Anyway - I'm still walking, still singing at the same octave (I think), and am now staying away from the ALB when playing out...



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Old 21 October 2005, 22:12   #72
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For those of you who did not see Have I got News for You tonight, watch/record the replay on sunday. Interesting shot of 2 people being throw out of a boat (a hard boat, not a RIB). Both were sitting in a bucket type seat.
It is a bit quick and may require a bit of replay to see what happened.
Its the bit at the beginning along the lines of "Tony Blair discovers what the red button is for"
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Old 21 October 2005, 22:12   #73
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Footstraps and windscreens

Funny how I only noticed this post now.

As most of you will know the Redbays are tough boats and one of my purchase criteria was its ability in rough waters. I had been warned by Tom McLoughlin in Redbay that you will probaly break yourself before you break the boat. Little did I realise that I would put that forecast to the test.

Last Decemer 28 in an effort to shake off some Xmas excess myself and two others went wave chasing in a force 6/7. We were in the company of some guys in a Husycat and were keen to impress. We did. The Boat handled itself brilliantly and we got great fun from driving off waves and into big seas.

After some time I offered to let one of the others drive and my co pilot was a bit heavy on the throttle. Going upwind at approx 30 knots we hit a big wave and the sensation was as if we had hit a wall.

I was in port passsenger jockey holding onto the console grabrail. With the force of the collision i was thrown forward and pivoted on my wrists. I stoped when my upper gum hit the top of the windscreen. Result: one smashed mouth and broken windscreen. As for Toms forecast I suppose you could say it was a draw.

Since then I have had foot loops fitted and the sense of security they give is amazing. I can now grip myself tight to the floor which allows for movement from the knees up. This gives me much more control over my lateral movement as well as forward and backwards control.

Whilst very useful in the rough stuff the family like the additional safety in the fast stuff on the calmer days.

I would recommend footstraps to anyone and especially to those of you with the faster / bigger boats who tend to be out in the more challenging weather.

Best of luck.
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Old 21 October 2005, 22:16   #74
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Get a red one and subject it to years of sun and salt, then wash it in non-bio at gas mark 7 a few times.
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Old 21 October 2005, 22:55   #75
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I tend to sit with my knees clamped tightly to my beer can to avoid spillage.
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Old 22 October 2005, 08:50   #76
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Get a red one and subject it to years of sun and salt, then wash it in non-bio at gas mark 7 a few times.
You're beginning to sound like gas mark Pete 7

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Depends on the boat, really. And the design. And visibility etc.
And speed too among other factors. Bit pointless trying to look like James Bond when tootling down rivers at 5 knots

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For those of you who did not see Have I got News for You tonight, watch/record the replay on sunday. Interesting shot of 2 people being throw out of a boat (a hard boat, not a RIB). Both were sitting in a bucket type seat.
It is a bit quick and may require a bit of replay to see what happened.
Its the bit at the beginning along the lines of "Tony Blair discovers what the red button is for"
You can see the video here: http://www.jfvideo.co.uk/gallery/Gen...ideos/ejection

If just goes to show that if you hook at high speed you're likely to have problems whatever sort of seat you've got!

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Seems a bit strange to me - the boat doesn't seem to undergo THAT violent a jolt and yet the speed they are ejected is amazing!!!

Maybe an external shot would make things clearer!!!
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You can see the video here: http://www.jfvideo.co.uk/gallery/Gen...ideos/ejection

If just goes to show that if you hook at high speed you're likely to have problems whatever sort of seat you've got!

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Old 22 October 2005, 12:35   #80
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The TV shot was of 2 passengers getting ditched. Similar conditions. The camera angle is higher on the HIGNFY clip.
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