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03 November 2015, 03:04
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Country: USA
Town: USA
Boat name: RIB
Make: Zodiac
Length: 7m +
Engine: I/O
Join Date: Oct 2015
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How good are willard ribs?
Hi
What do you think of Willards compared to Zodiacs?
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03 November 2015, 03:20
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Country: USA
Town: Cali
Boat name: Thumper
Make: Avon CRRC 4.5
Length: 4m +
Engine: Merc 50
Join Date: Jun 2012
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Originally Posted by drlang
Hi
What do you think of Willards compared to Zodiacs?
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What size mate? Most are built like a brick shite house.
Cheers
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03 November 2015, 04:43
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Country: USA
Town: California
Make: Avon 5.4m Searider
Length: 5m +
Engine: Yamaha 90
Join Date: Aug 2011
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Ask Ryan - he's owned plenty of both.
You'll have to be more specific though.
Length? Are we talking the ~5.4m or ~7.3m length? Outboard or inboard? On outboard, factory bracket, Armstrong, or Hermco?
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03 November 2015, 14:09
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Country: USA
Town: USA
Boat name: RIB
Make: Zodiac
Length: 7m +
Engine: I/O
Join Date: Oct 2015
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7.3 m
Konrad stern drive
5.9 cummins
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03 November 2015, 14:29
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Country: USA
Town: CA
Make: Zodiac RIB-P
Length: 7m +
Engine: Suzuki 250
Join Date: Aug 2010
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they are about as good as you get here in the states.
The Zodiac 733 and Willard 730 are just about identical boats. Rumor has it they share the same hull molds in past distant history and even now may parts are a direct fit between brands. The guys that refurb them say there are some slight hull differences now and generally they prefer the Willards. There are several 7m owners on here and Ryan Pratt has rebuild many of them to absurdly perfect and amazing boats.
Jason
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03 November 2015, 15:32
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Country: USA
Town: USA
Boat name: RIB
Make: Zodiac
Length: 7m +
Engine: I/O
Join Date: Oct 2015
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I would like to contact Ryan for some advice.
Sounds like he is the expert.
The main question is whether to buy used and take a chance on some very expensive breakdown or to pay more for a new boat. This is a business investment I am talking about.
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03 November 2015, 15:59
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Country: USA
Town: California
Make: Avon 5.4m Searider
Length: 5m +
Engine: Yamaha 90
Join Date: Aug 2011
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Originally Posted by drlang
The main question is whether to buy used and take a chance on some very expensive breakdown or to pay more for a new boat. This is a business investment I am talking about.
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Business venture? Depends what you're doing. For charters, some people have shied away from the non-common rail Cummins due to noise. But, 1100 lbs of Cummins low and forward in the hull makes for a phenomenal riding hull in almost any conditions. My old Willard had a better hole shot than my friends H733 OTH with a stern mounted Yanmar 316 - even trimmed down, he went bow up when trying to accelerate quickly. Not so with the Willard. The con - the Willard topped out at 30 knots and he topped out at 42 knots.
Price? Expect to pay 4x for new over used for a Zodiac or Willard 7m. If you have time could you repower and old hull for cheaper? Of course.
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03 November 2015, 16:01
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Country: USA
Town: CA
Make: Zodiac RIB-P
Length: 7m +
Engine: Suzuki 250
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that's a decision over my pay grade although I think you can probably get a used one and re-build, re-power, and re-tube (if needed) for much less than a new one.
Jason
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03 November 2015, 16:11
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Country: USA
Town: USA
Boat name: RIB
Make: Zodiac
Length: 7m +
Engine: I/O
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What is a better hole shot?
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03 November 2015, 19:45
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Country: USA
Town: CA
Make: Zodiac RIB-P
Length: 7m +
Engine: Suzuki 250
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You drag racing? Might not be the best single performance criteria to judge these boats on. I have a single OB so can't tell you much about diesel hole shot.
Jason
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03 November 2015, 23:20
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Country: USA
Town: California
Make: Avon 5.4m Searider
Length: 5m +
Engine: Yamaha 90
Join Date: Aug 2011
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bigtalljv
You drag racing?
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That's day, yes. But I was only ahead for the first 200 yards.
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04 November 2015, 01:53
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Country: USA
Town: USA
Boat name: RIB
Make: Zodiac
Length: 7m +
Engine: I/O
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I was wondering if it was that expression from my juvenile days.
Could not care less about drag racing.
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04 November 2015, 02:20
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Member
Country: USA
Town: USA
Boat name: RIB
Make: Zodiac
Length: 7m +
Engine: I/O
Join Date: Oct 2015
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Okay Guys Thanks for the know-how on these boats.
How about Nautica and Ribcraft? What do you all think of them?
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04 November 2015, 04:38
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Country: USA
Town: CA
Make: Zodiac RIB-P
Length: 7m +
Engine: Suzuki 250
Join Date: Aug 2010
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What are you looking to do? All good boats. What you are planning to do with it makes the "which is better" question easier to answer
Jason
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04 November 2015, 14:59
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Member
Country: USA
Town: USA
Boat name: RIB
Make: Zodiac
Length: 7m +
Engine: I/O
Join Date: Oct 2015
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it will be a work boat. vessel assist and dive support
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04 November 2015, 15:29
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Country: UK - England
Town: West Sussex
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Join Date: Oct 2002
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Quote:
Originally Posted by drlang
7.3 m
Konrad stern drive
5.9 cummins
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what is the average price for such in the US?
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04 November 2015, 15:38
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Member
Country: USA
Town: USA
Boat name: RIB
Make: Zodiac
Length: 7m +
Engine: I/O
Join Date: Oct 2015
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I don't know
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04 November 2015, 19:13
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Country: UK - England
Town: West Sussex
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Quote:
Originally Posted by drlang
I don't know
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Would you pay between USD 75-100K of course in good condition
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04 November 2015, 20:56
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Member
Country: USA
Town: USA
Boat name: RIB
Make: Zodiac
Length: 7m +
Engine: I/O
Join Date: Oct 2015
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You are too far away to sell me a boat it seems. You are in UK and I am in US West Coast.
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04 November 2015, 20:58
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Member
Country: USA
Town: California
Make: Avon 5.4m Searider
Length: 5m +
Engine: Yamaha 90
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 1,260
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Quote:
Originally Posted by drlang
You are too far away to sell me a boat it seems. You are in UK and I am in US West Coast.
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If you're ordering new, his prices (including shipping) are much cheaper than a brand new Willard out of Anaheim, CA.
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