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09 October 2009, 12:27
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I have used west system fairing compound mixed in with resin to seat the new deck into the hull. £7 spent so far plus the resin. It is top stuff you can mix it up to the consistency you want and flow it into the gap between the ply and the hull.
Shall take some photos tonight unless the red wine calls stronger than the garage.
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Fairing or Adhesive? Have you used microballoons or microfibres with the resin?
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09 October 2009, 12:31
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I think you've done it the best way if the flooding hull is to be permanently no more mate. Where as Tim's approach still leaves that option.
How much weight do you think the rib supports will add?
Oh and
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I have been working on the principle that 9mm deck supported by a few 9mm supports provides evenly spread support and is lighter than say 18mm play over the whole deck. I shall get photos tonight.
I have spent a long time reading and debating the whole flooding non flooding debate…. And as a result of this and the strong desire not to have water sloshing round the floor all the time I have committed to the non flooding.
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09 October 2009, 12:40
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Fairing or Adhesive? Have you used microballoons or microfibres with the resin?
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went with this stuff http://www.cfsnet.co.uk/acatalog/Hig...ty_Filler.html
I have to say it is all new to me this resin and glassing work and I have done lots of reading and then a bit more. and it all seams a lot less hassle and work than i exspected.
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09 October 2009, 12:41
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I'm gonna jump a head a little....What donkey are you putting on the back?
Sorry for the 21 questions mate, just love these threads
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09 October 2009, 12:54
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I'm gonna jump a head a little....What donkey are you putting on the back?
Sorry for the 21 questions mate, just love these threads
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I have not even got the transom in yet or even looked at tubes and you are looking for info on the power pack…..
I shall reserve this till after I have got the transom in, as it shall depend on how confident I feel on the construction of this important bit of the hull.
I am thinking of going down the Tosh 90 direct injection route. As 90hp seams to be the agreed sweat spot for these ribs. Mate has a 5.4 with a 125hp 2/ hung on the back which is in my view over the top, fun but over the top.
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09 October 2009, 16:11
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photos JSP
As requested
photo 1: deck in as it is currently, as you can see there is quite a bit of flat hull avalible to bond the deck onto.
photo 2: next section of deck to go in
photo3: start of the console build.
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09 October 2009, 16:38
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I have not even got the transom in yet or even looked at tubes and you are looking for info on the power pack…..
I shall reserve this till after I have got the transom in, as it shall depend on how confident I feel on the construction of this important bit of the hull.
I am thinking of going down the Tosh 90 direct injection route. As 90hp seams to be the agreed sweat spot for these ribs. Mate has a 5.4 with a 125hp 2/ hung on the back which is in my view over the top, fun but over the top.
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Good to plan a head though
Your mates very silly for having an over powered searider
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09 October 2009, 16:40
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As requested
photo 1: deck in as it is currently, as you can see there is quite a bit of flat hull avalible to bond the deck onto.
photo 2: next section of deck to go in
photo3: start of the console build.
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Looks good mate!
I see what you mean now. Once bonded all the way around that area is well enough.
Now.....
GET ON WITH IT!!!!
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09 October 2009, 16:50
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Looks good mate!
I see what you mean now. Once bonded all the way around that area is well enough.
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not only is it bonded all round but also glassing the ribs in as i go hence not sticking the deck down in big bits.
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Now.....
GET ON WITH IT!!!!
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after the week I have had not much is getting done this weekend. red wine is needed
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09 October 2009, 17:09
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not only is it bonded all round but also glassing the ribs in as i go hence not sticking the deck down in big bits.
after the week I have had not much is getting done this weekend. red wine is needed
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I know the feeling
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09 October 2009, 21:12
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Your mates very silly for having an over powered searider
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erm.... pot,kettle etc?
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09 October 2009, 21:32
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erm.... pot,kettle etc?
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Come on Chris, your not American! Sarcasm
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10 October 2009, 10:21
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He should be fine providing he gaffa taped tubes
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10 October 2009, 10:53
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He should be fine providing he gaffa taped tubes
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Who's tubes when he's a home?
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03 November 2009, 13:16
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hows she coming along? have you got a full deck in yet?
more pics please!!!........
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04 November 2009, 07:38
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I have been a bit er busy with other things of late but I have started on the console build part of the project and have the rest of the deck cut and all the under deck strengthening in place to just fire it down.
But need to get a few things sorted out before that like
- Transom needs to go in – But I did last night managed to make up a 9mm ply pattern for this.
- Need to sort out a fuel tank and work out where it is going to sit
- And just remembered that I am looking to put in an under floor pipe for the control lines to run in so very glad I have not rushed to fit the floor just yet.
Placed order yesterday for more resin and the rest of the kit one needs. So with any luck and if I can clear my feet Sunday is looking like a good day to “bash on”
Shall get some more photos up as I move forward.
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08 November 2009, 22:17
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Transom is in
Thank you to all the words of advice on how to build a transom.
Well it was a long day, after starting at 11am and not calling it a day till 8:30pm. We managed to get the 3 sheets of 18mm for the transom cut and fitted after bonding them and clapping them with bolts to the original outer skin. Got the stringers in to add support for the floor and for added support for the transom. The knees have been cut and bonded to 40mm. They are not fitted as yet but looking to get these suck on tomorrow night…
I think I deserve the beer now…
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08 November 2009, 22:21
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Well done.
What thickness is the finished transom?
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08 November 2009, 22:27
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Well done.
What thickness is the finished transom?
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54mm in marine ply. not yet glassed over it all as yet. have left the heater on in the garage tonight, as there is frost on the car already
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08 November 2009, 22:50
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Photo 1: template as a starting point
photo 2: transom with knees inplace (just for show)
photo 3: transom with stringers inplace.
PS: would have put the photos in before but only just found the dam usb cable to link phone to lap top
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