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20 February 2006, 21:27
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How Heavy?
This maybe a silly question but.....
Thinking of changing my car and new car will tow 2000kg max trailer weight. Any ideas on approx weight of Avon 5.6, 90hp honda + trailer in total?
Also if I upgrade to a larger rib, then what is the maximum size boat / engine combination that I could approx tow?
Thanks
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20 February 2006, 21:48
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2000kg is quite alot - what car is it?
A 5.6m with a 90 hp should be no more than 1000kg on its trailer.
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20 February 2006, 21:54
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Never trust a teenage quantity surveyor! I would think your bote wouldn't be more than 999kg.
you'd get a 7.5 with a big outboard in under the 200kg limit.
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20 February 2006, 22:28
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rogue Wave
Never trust a teenage quantity surveyor! I would think your bote wouldn't be more than 999kg.
you'd get a 7.5 with a big outboard in under the 200kg limit.
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So that'll be the fastest 7.5m around....At 200kg .
My 5.5 with 90 Merc 4 fully laden with full tank is about 800kg's I recon.
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20 February 2006, 22:33
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My 7.5m Tornado with 200hp Opti, all kit on board, full fuel (200 litres) and trailer weighs in at 1700 kg (checked on a weighbridge).
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20 February 2006, 22:36
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hightower
So that'll be the fastest 7.5m around....At 200kg .
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It's obviously a Falcon! Advanced laminating techniques.
oh by the way there is a Delica at the Family car centre round the corner from us
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20 February 2006, 22:44
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21 February 2006, 19:17
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DJL
2000kg is quite alot - what car is it?
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It *maybe* the new Toyota RAV4 T-180, awaiting test drive.
It seems that 2000kgs is a pretty big rib / engine combination then!
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21 February 2006, 19:26
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Off the top of my head our Avon 560 with a honda 90 comes in at around 750/800 kg with a full tank of fuel
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21 February 2006, 20:00
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Has the new rav4 got a high/low range box? The old one didn't. (refer you to the 'freelander as a tow vehicle thread' just in case...)
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21 February 2006, 20:11
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nos4r2
Has the new rav4 got a high/low range box? The old one didn't. (refer you to the 'freelander as a tow vehicle thread' just in case...)
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Matt,
Some RAV4s don't have any sort of 4 wheel drive. I'm lead to believe.
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21 February 2006, 20:24
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Cheers Nick-bloody hell. I wouldn't bother with one as a tow vehicle at all then.
No way you'll get up a slip with 1000kg in tow with 2wd....and it'll be bad news on a clutch with no low range even if it HAS got 4wd
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21 February 2006, 20:42
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Biggles
Matt,
Some RAV4s don't have any sort of 4 wheel drive. I'm lead to believe.
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They did make a 2 wheel drive version ('it didn't sell well). I think on the basis that the people who bought them "thought" they needed 4 wheel drive.
In 11 years of owning 4x4's: A Range Rover, Toyota Landcruiser, Merc ML x 2, Another Landcruiser. I've used low range about 4 times.
Twice in the Range Rover, first time it got stuck ON mud (not IN) and had to be towed out, second time, just to try it! (spring broke in gearbox and after ANOTHER trip to the Land Rover garage to fix it - In Low Range of course!!!, never used it again)
Twice in the ML, again just to try it. (It worked)
As rogue wave can testify, I live somewhere where you would need a 4x4 and I haven't needed a "real" one in 11 years! - Hence the possible change of vehicle!
Without wanting to start a war here, but from real experience (5 models in our family over time) I wouldn't consider a Land Rover product EVER again. My RR I only had for a year and it was a nightmare, Toyota on the other hand has been superb.
Land Rover do know however how to make a nice looking car!
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21 February 2006, 20:47
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuart M
They did make a 2 wheel drive version ('it didn't sell well). I think on the basis that the people who bought them "thought" they needed 4 wheel drive.
In 11 years of owning 4x4's: A Range Rover, Toyota Landcruiser, Merc ML x 2, Another Landcruiser. I've used low range about 4 times.
Twice in the Range Rover, first time it got stuck ON mud (not IN) and had to be towed out, second time, just to try it! (spring broke in gearbox and after ANOTHER trip to the Land Rover garage to fix it - In Low Range of course!!!, never used it again)
Twice in the ML, again just to try it. (It worked)
As rogue wave can testify, I live somewhere where you would need a 4x4 and I haven't needed a "real" one in 11 years! - Hence the possible change of vehicle!
Without wanting to start a war here, but from real experience (5 models in our family over time) I wouldn't consider a Land Rover product EVER again. My RR I only had for a year and it was a nightmare, Toyota on the other hand has been superb.
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At the risk of starting an argument,has any one shown you what the diff.lock does?
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About 1.5 litres per hour (slower but easier on the pocket)
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21 February 2006, 21:12
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Yes, sorry - prev post should have been low range / diff lock, not just low range! - I think on the RR it was on the one lever which did High/Low and Diff Lock. I do understand the significance.
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21 February 2006, 21:12
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dino
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And the fact he only used it twice would explain why the spring broke!!!
I love using low range - even on the road - great for creeping in traffic jams and annoying people on steep hills!!!
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21 February 2006, 21:13
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Stuart
Sorry mate!Just me trying to be funny
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About 1.5 litres per hour (slower but easier on the pocket)
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21 February 2006, 21:31
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No problem - I saw the funny side when I read the post
I guess the fact the spring broke on the second occasion is that the elastic had perished!
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21 February 2006, 22:31
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Update:
Now you just couldn't make this up...........
We often have a neighbours dog visit us when he goes for too long a walk and we get a phone call something like "is harry with you", well that happened tonight and the neighbour called to say they would come up in the car to fetch him.........
40 minutes later the neighbour calls: "Sorry I'm not with you yet but the Range Rovers broken down - I'll get a friend to come and get the dog"
You just couldn't make that up - could you !
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21 February 2006, 23:52
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Whilst some of the previous Toyota Rav 4s were FWD only the new one you are referring to is selectable 4WD, hill decent control on autos. After a flick through the car mags, it has selectable 4WD and the 2.2 D4D diesel 180 is actually 175BHP which should be enough for the slip way and has 295lb ft of torque from 2,000rpm, also useful. Received a good report from What Car, and has Toyota reliability and quality, no hard core offroader but would definatly do the job on the slip way fine IMHO.
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