How high would you go

Sonar · 08 May 2010, 19:35

Well there are a number of suspension seats now on the market.

Some look better than others.
The question is what would the forum members think would be the right price to pay for a suspension seat.???

Me £ 150.00 but for that it would have to be the best of the best.

other made up prices just give me a laugh.

And one thinks how many ribbers pay that amount of money for them.

Posh' Poser' or just got to have one ??

Nos4r2 · 08 May 2010, 20:35

I'd be thinking about them if I could buy one for £500.

However, if I was really that fussed about them I could probably make them for £150.

Sonar · 08 May 2010, 20:47

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Originally Posted by Nos4r2

I'd be thinking about them if I could buy one for £500.

However, if I was really that fussed about them I could probably make them for £150.

Even for £500 would not sway me.

£150 to make yes I would consider making some.
I have made everything else I may as well have a go.

a double tube and a motor cycle shocker and spring.
might be a good start for me

chewy · 08 May 2010, 20:49

Have a search on here, I think it was Ian who made them and did a very good job.

slimtim · 30 June 2010, 13:09

I've been thinking about this for a long time. I always thought there was a market for a simple, retro fit suspension system that came in at a reasonable price. £150 however is way off the mark, I don't think it would even be possible keep the costs under that. My aim would be under £500 but I think it could difficult.

It's something I might put my mind to and see If I can produce some designs.

HUMBER P4VWL · 30 June 2010, 15:24

£150

To put something together is going to take a single person minimum 5-10 hours labour. you are over the budget before materials.

a stainless hand rail is is £250, so any kind of solid seat with movement is going to be way over that.

I think under £500 would be a good target, once designed, if economies of scale could be factored in, circa £350 per seat and I reckon you would sell them pretty quick.

Nos4r2 · 30 June 2010, 16:19

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Originally Posted by HUMBER P4VWL

£150

To put something together is going to take a single person minimum 5-10 hours labour. you are over the budget before materials.

a stainless hand rail is is £250, so any kind of solid seat with movement is going to be way over that.

I think under £500 would be a good target, once designed, if economies of scale could be factored in, circa £350 per seat and I reckon you would sell them pretty quick.

That's £150 to build it for my own use and I have access to everything I'd need to do it without any outlay apart from materials. Being into 'custom' bikes has its advantages.

It'd be somewhat more expensive otherwise!

busaboy · 30 June 2010, 16:21

Been looking at these, some the seats in tractors i use are similar and cost alot less

Nos4r2 · 30 June 2010, 16:24

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Originally Posted by busaboy

Been looking at these, some the seats in tractors i use are similar and cost alot less

They won't stand up to the salty environment very well though...

HUMBER P4VWL · 30 June 2010, 16:31

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Originally Posted by Nos4r2

That's £150 to build it for my own use and I have access to everything I'd need to do it without any outlay apart from materials. Being into 'custom' bikes has its advantages.

It'd be somewhat more expensive otherwise!

Oh. Do you watch that Orange County bike series with Paul senior and junior on SKY. My wife is addicted to it. They look cool...but i bet they ride like cr*p.

Hightower · 30 June 2010, 16:42

I think the single most expensive Item could be the shock and spring made from corrosion free stainless. If someone could find a cheap source of these then that would go along way to reducing costs.

Mollers · 30 June 2010, 17:25

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Originally Posted by chewy

Have a search on here, I think it was Ian who made them and did a very good job.

Those shocks alone would've been more than £150 a throw.

Sit tight, there maybe some slightly more sensibly priced 'shocker' seats coming to the market in the near future.

C2 RIBS · 30 June 2010, 19:10

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Originally Posted by Mollers

Those shocks alone would've been more than £150 a throw.

Sit tight, there maybe some slightly more sensibly priced 'shocker' seats coming to the market in the near future.

So what do you know? I have been researching this area and another choice might be the type of foam and just replace the foam seats that are supplied. Cost is a major issue to everyone

Nos4r2 · 30 June 2010, 20:04

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Originally Posted by HUMBER P4VWL

Oh. Do you watch that Orange County bike series with Paul senior and junior on SKY. My wife is addicted to it. They look cool...but i bet they ride like cr*p.

No, can't stand them! Bikes are meant to be ridden, not some kind of fashion statement.

Nos4r2 · 30 June 2010, 20:11

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Originally Posted by Mollers

Those shocks alone would've been more than £150 a throw.

Mountain bike shocks aren't though.

Bigmuz7 · 30 June 2010, 20:47

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Originally Posted by Nos4r2

Mountain bike shocks aren't though.

But they aint big enough

The reason they (seats) cost so much is the materials needed to make one that works .. and then lasts with the constant pounding, and then,.. is easily fixable to your boat .. Sure through time they may become cheaper but its a bit of a bespoke area IMO at the moment so good ones are bound to cost a few bob .

Poly · 30 June 2010, 21:18

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Originally Posted by Nos4r2

Mountain bike shocks aren't though.

good ones are!

Steve_B · 30 June 2010, 21:22

I would love to replace at least the 2 helm seats for the crew, as they can be out for many hours. Whilst the Parker is very soft riding and we dont go looking for the big stuff, I consider them to be worth while. For me, they would have to come in at less than £1000/each.

Having said that, I think that new rules will result in the need for seats such as this for passengers too. So that means 14 seats in all, suddenly the boat costs at least £14,000 more. This throws the profit/loss viability right out the window.

Steve

slimtim · 30 June 2010, 21:25

Mountain bike damper is what I would use. Nothing fancy, a fox float r (air sprung, adjustable rebound) can be had for under £100. I first thought that it would suffer in the marine environment but thinking about it I think it would hold its own. They are all painted or anodised aluminium and you could make custom stainless bushes. The pounding is probably comparable to the abuse I give my mountain bike shocks (although bottom out could be more severe).

As for length, you don't need a long stroke for the design I have in my head.

Sounds like Mollers has beaten me to it though with some sort of involvement with a new product?!

Shark Seats · 30 August 2017, 02:56

Apologies we are not yet down to the £150 mark!

But our aim is to produce the highest performance seats available, at a lower price. To achieve this we focus on simple design principles, and modern high volume manufacturing processes (such as injection molding).

I posted up a bit of an intro here:

http://www.rib.net/forum/f43/suspens...ing-76731.html

Hope it's of interest.