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22 November 2011, 14:38
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Town: swanwick/hamble
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Is the stuff you got at a good price. If you think you could have a better deal by placing a new complete order with someone else then try to back the lot. That is if you haven't used what you have from them. This may prompt two actions.you may get a full refund as part of it is not what you wanted or they might stretch a bit further for your trouble.sounds like they gave you an offer they couldn't afford
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22 November 2011, 14:41
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Ashton-under-Lyne Lancs
Boat name: IMOGEN
Make: Air-Craft 5.4
Length: 5m +
Engine: Suzuki df70a
MMSI: 235087492
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I would take back what ever money you can get at the moment at least it's something, and once you have received it, then I would go for the jugular to claim the rest. I.M.H.O.
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22 November 2011, 14:44
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Member
Country: UK - Channel Islands
Town: Jersey
Boat name: t/t
Make: Honda
Length: under 3m
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Could you contact the manufacturer concerned if you are buying through a representative of theirs ??
I would suggest you explain the dealings you have had, the parts you require and request to buy these direct at cost price from the manufacturer ?? You never know, they may even do you a really good deal
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22 November 2011, 15:07
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Town: Plymouth
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Originally Posted by JABS
Right. The company has offered a refund for the 'undelivered parts'.
It isn't enough to buy them! There is a shortfall of £175.
Where do I stand under the law?
My view is that they agreed to supply the kit of parts for a fixed amount. They supplied all but two bits and they are offering a refund that doesn't cover the complete cost of replacements. I should be able to claim the complete cost of purchasing from another source, provided I show that I have tried to get a good deal.
What does everyone think?
Or am I just grateful that I have ONLY lost 175??
But them, I don't have the refund yet!
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The law is on your side to the point that you could claim the difference back from them for having to obtain them elsewhere but it's a murky difficult process. I'd cut your losses and get back what you can ASAP then order the parts elsewhere.
Once you've done that you could try going back to them for a refund of the difference by trying to "call their bluff" but I doubt it would work.
At least it's some of your money back though which is better than your concerned posts of taking the hit.
Just double check they are refunding you the correct amounts for the parts they have failed on as if they were being bought separate, as that's what they are refunding you on. If they prefer offer to return everything (even if used) for a full refund then shop elsewhere as really that's what they should be doing if it was a single transaction of a kit. If each item is displayed and priced on the receipt then it's different again
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22 November 2011, 15:13
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Country: UK - Scotland
Boat name: imposter
Make: FunYak
Length: 3m +
Engine: Tohatsu 30HP
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Originally Posted by JABS
Right. The company has offered a refund for the 'undelivered parts'.
It isn't enough to buy them! There is a shortfall of £175.
Where do I stand under the law?
My view is that they agreed to supply the kit of parts for a fixed amount. They supplied all but two bits and they are offering a refund that doesn't cover the complete cost of replacements. I should be able to claim the complete cost of purchasing from another source, provided I show that I have tried to get a good deal.
What does everyone think?
Or am I just grateful that I have ONLY lost 175??
But them, I don't have the refund yet!
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Its not clear cut. It will depend on their T&Cs of sale (if they can at their discression choose to part fulfil an order and cancel the rest). Personally I think I'd get their refund and live with the cost hit, but perhaps not be so shy about naming the person who's just made more money out of you than he deserves.
I quite liked biffers suggestion of saying - "no it was a package you take it all back for a full refund", but I don't fancy handing over the goods and expecting the cheque to arrive and clear...
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22 November 2011, 15:33
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Bursledon
Boat name: Mustard
Make: Ribeye 785
Length: 7m +
Engine: Yamaha 200/Merc 6
MMSI: 235068693
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Indeed. I don't really read the T's and C's before placing an order. I circulated the list to several companies and gave the business to someone who, whilst not the cheapest, made a fair offer and, in my view, deserved the business.
It was agreed as a package as I queried prices on a couple of items but agreed on a 'swings and roundabout' basis.
Yes, I would dearly love to remove the rest and take it back, battered boxes, cut wires and all but the chances of seeing my money would be diminished, I am sure. It would also not be a constructive way to move on.
From my PM's, it would seem that I am not alone in this experience!
Let's see if the refund arrives as promised for tomorrow.
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22 November 2011, 15:38
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: swanwick/hamble
Boat name: stormchaser
Make: custom rib
Length: 8m +
Engine: inboard/diesel
Join Date: Aug 2007
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if you've fitted the other stuff, take the money and run, put it down to experience
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22 November 2011, 15:39
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tricky one, i'd take the money and shop elsewhere.
cheers
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22 November 2011, 15:45
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Originally Posted by JABS
What does everyone think?
Or am I just grateful that I have ONLY lost 175??
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You haven't really "lost" anything, IF you get the refund. If I were you I would be counting my blessings, rather than those unhatched chickens!
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22 November 2011, 17:55
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Town: Plymouth
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Originally Posted by willk
You haven't really "lost" anything, IF you get the refund. If I were you I would be counting my blessings, rather than those unhatched chickens!
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He has because he will have to source the missing bits elsewhere which as he has advised will cost him £175 more because he's not able to get a discount for buying the entire kit, as he did with his original order.
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22 November 2011, 17:58
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Sheepy Parva
Boat name: Sadly Sold
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Join Date: Sep 2008
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I know it'd hurt but I'd cut and run
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22 November 2011, 18:13
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Town: Hamble
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Originally Posted by Boats&Outboards
He has because he will have to source the missing bits elsewhere which as he has advised will cost him £175 more because he's not able to get a discount for buying the entire kit, as he did with his original order.
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A good opportunity for a "trader" to step up and offer the remaining items at cost, so as to help out a fellow forumite and to hopefully get repeat business!
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22 November 2011, 18:32
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Town: Plymouth
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Originally Posted by Dirk Diggler
A good opportunity for a "trader" to step up and offer the remaining items at cost, so as to help out a fellow forumite and to hopefully get repeat business!
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Indeed. If I could I would. Perhaps an "electronic" supplier can offer that help. That being said I've not seen one in particular on here for a while ?
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22 November 2011, 18:38
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Ashton-under-Lyne Lancs
Boat name: IMOGEN
Make: Air-Craft 5.4
Length: 5m +
Engine: Suzuki df70a
MMSI: 235087492
Join Date: May 2010
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Originally Posted by Boats&Outboards
Indeed. If I could I would. Perhaps an "electronic" supplier can offer that help. That being said I've not seen one in particular on here for a while ?
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I think I know who you mean. He's not been on for a while, could he be busy in Poland ??
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22 November 2011, 18:41
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Town: Hamble
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Boats&Outboards
Indeed. If I could I would. Perhaps an "electronic" supplier can offer that help. That being said I've not seen one in particular on here for a while ?
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I wasn't meaning yourself, infact no one in particular! I could possibly help, but would need to know what the missing items were, to see if my supplier (SMG) stocks them.
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22 November 2011, 20:01
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: South Yorks
Boat name: Black Pig
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: DF140a
MMSI: 235111389
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Send them an email telling them that if they pay up in full,you won't publicly thank them on the forum. It could be the best £175 they've spent
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22 November 2011, 20:54
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Sheepy Parva
Boat name: Sadly Sold
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kerny
He's not been on for a while, could he be busy in Poland ??
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Thought that too. PM'd him earlier to see if he was still around.
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22 November 2011, 22:30
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Ashton-under-Lyne Lancs
Boat name: IMOGEN
Make: Air-Craft 5.4
Length: 5m +
Engine: Suzuki df70a
MMSI: 235087492
Join Date: May 2010
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Leapy
Thought that too. PM'd him earlier to see if he was still around.
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Great minds think alike
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23 November 2011, 08:09
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Sheepy Parva
Boat name: Sadly Sold
Length: no boat
Join Date: Sep 2008
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Channel Ribs is alive and well and distracted whilst keeping the islanders alive and well
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23 November 2011, 08:29
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: swanwick/hamble
Boat name: stormchaser
Make: custom rib
Length: 8m +
Engine: inboard/diesel
Join Date: Aug 2007
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I think it's wrong to try to shame someone else into stepping up to the bar.
In these times everybody has to earn a shilling. I think it was not right for the supplier of his stuff to take the cream out of it and leave him short but I'm a great believer in what goes round comes round.
This supplier will get his just deserts and once this economic climate has cleared out the wrong one it will be better for us all.
All that on one cuppa. Must be a record
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