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13 July 2020, 19:23
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Godalming
Boat name: Bumblebee
Make: Avon
Length: 4m +
Engine: yamaha 40hp 2stroke
Join Date: Oct 2017
Posts: 151
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How mad am I?
I bought my sr4 off my great uncle in 2013 for 1500 quid all up, trailer and engine included (a 1999 yam 40veto) It was a bit rough around the edges but in good nick overall and we've used it every year without fail, patching up the little issues as and when they've arrived, like me accidentally cracking a valve off and losing all the air in one of the tubes.
Come 2020 and I knew she was very tired. There's a fair bit of water ingress and the deck is bendy and the boatyard told me the transom is borderline dangerous. Couple phone calls later and it's looking to be 6 to 8 grand to get it up to scratch. and I'm actually considering it
Picture of my floating scrapheap for reference/amusement. Do please let me know how much of an idiot I am, I know I deserve it.
I value the two up front seating far too much to swap to a jockey console RIB, to the extent I'm looking at getting it grafted into a new rib if mine is beyond repair
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13 July 2020, 19:32
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: north ayrshire
Boat name: charlie girl
Make: S/R5.4/regal3760
Length: 10m +
Engine: Suzukidf70 2x6lp 315
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 3,984
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Originally Posted by Livid
I bought my sr4 off my great uncle in 2013 for 1500 quid all up, trailer and engine included (a 1999 yam 40veto) It was a bit rough around the edges but in good nick overall and we've used it every year without fail, patching up the little issues as and when they've arrived, like me accidentally cracking a valve off and losing all the air in one of the tubes.
Come 2020 and I knew she was very tired. There's a fair bit of water ingress and the deck is bendy and the boatyard told me the transom is borderline dangerous. Couple phone calls later and it's looking to be 6 to 8 grand to get it up to scratch. and I'm actually considering it [emoji38][emoji38][emoji38] Attachment 134176
Picture of my floating scrapheap for reference/amusement. Do please let me know how much of an idiot I am, I know I deserve it.
I value the two up front seating far too much to swap to a jockey console RIB, to the extent I'm looking at getting it grafted into a new rib if mine is beyond repair
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Is that including new tubes or just the structural bits like transom and floor?
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13 July 2020, 19:42
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Godalming
Boat name: Bumblebee
Make: Avon
Length: 4m +
Engine: yamaha 40hp 2stroke
Join Date: Oct 2017
Posts: 151
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Everything. New tubes, transom and deck and all the fitting and fixing and bolting together. Guy said even if it's all totally shot to bits (which ngl I suspect will be the case) it won't exceed 8k. If they can salvage the deck and transom then it'll be closer to 6k, but I'm not sure if it's worth the savings.
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13 July 2020, 20:00
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: north ayrshire
Boat name: charlie girl
Make: S/R5.4/regal3760
Length: 10m +
Engine: Suzukidf70 2x6lp 315
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 3,984
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Originally Posted by Livid
Everything. New tubes, transom and deck and all the fitting and fixing and bolting together. Guy said even if it's all totally shot to bits (which ngl I suspect will be the case) it won't exceed 8k. If they can salvage the deck and transom then it'll be closer to 6k, but I'm not sure if it's worth the savings.
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Still seems a lot of money tbh but I guess it depends on what they are going to do, new tubes inc fitting should be around 4k. Thats leaving 2k potentially 4k to refurb the hull which seems a lot unless your talking all new deck and transom plus full hull repaint & seats upholstered etc?
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13 July 2020, 20:01
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Country: UK - Scotland
Boat name: imposter
Make: FunYak
Length: 3m +
Engine: Tohatsu 30HP
MMSI: 235089819
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 11,627
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6k or 8k doesn’t matter, it’s not worth it. Why do you like the seating arrangement so much? Have you tried jockeys on anything modern? SR4s have their fans, and some of the reputation is justified but a lot is nostalgia. If they were that good there would be SR4 clones, and Aluminium hulled SR4 copies, etc (with either seating arrangement)...
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13 July 2020, 20:11
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Godalming
Boat name: Bumblebee
Make: Avon
Length: 4m +
Engine: yamaha 40hp 2stroke
Join Date: Oct 2017
Posts: 151
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Originally Posted by beamishken
Still seems a lot of money tbh but I guess it depends on what they are going to do, new tubes inc fitting should be around 4k. Thats leaving 2k potentially 4k to refurb the hull which seems a lot unless your talking all new deck and transom plus full hull repaint & seats upholstered etc?
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That is basically what is happening, all new deck and transom, seats and full rewiring because dear god, it might only have 5 wires but time and my questionable skillset really haven't been kind to them.
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13 July 2020, 20:16
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Godalming
Boat name: Bumblebee
Make: Avon
Length: 4m +
Engine: yamaha 40hp 2stroke
Join Date: Oct 2017
Posts: 151
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Originally Posted by Poly
6k or 8k doesn’t matter, it’s not worth it. Why do you like the seating arrangement so much? Have you tried jockeys on anything modern? SR4s have their fans, and some of the reputation is justified but a lot is nostalgia. If they were that good there would be SR4 clones, and Aluminium hulled SR4 copies, etc (with either seating arrangement)...
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It's comfy, I stay drier and yeah I've tried jockeys on a lot of newer ribs and idk why they just didn't resonate with me. I prefer sitting low in the front all enclosed as it jumps off waves and lands semi gracefully (I'm not the best driver). It's definitely partially nostalgia and attachment to it because it's been in my family since new and I don't want to be the one to scrap it. Also I like having something different. Half of all the boat's down here are black brigs and they all look the same and it's so booooooringgg. I know it doesn't make financial sense, but I'm an idiot 😂
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13 July 2020, 20:20
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Wild West
Boat name: No Boat
Make: No Boat
Length: under 3m
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 5,306
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How Mad are you?.....Pretty!
Two up front seating instead of Jockeys!??
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13 July 2020, 20:38
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Retford
Boat name: Spy-sea-one
Make: Excel 435
Length: 4m +
Engine: Suzuki Outboard/25/4
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 7,529
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13 July 2020, 21:12
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Godalming
Boat name: Bumblebee
Make: Avon
Length: 4m +
Engine: yamaha 40hp 2stroke
Join Date: Oct 2017
Posts: 151
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I can actually get one for 8k, but I already thought of that and they can't get my dashboard in apparently
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13 July 2020, 21:19
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Godalming
Boat name: Bumblebee
Make: Avon
Length: 4m +
Engine: yamaha 40hp 2stroke
Join Date: Oct 2017
Posts: 151
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Originally Posted by Maximus
How Mad are you?.....Pretty!
Two up front seating instead of Jockeys!??
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Hahahaha yeah I'm pretty mad
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13 July 2020, 21:51
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Edinburgh
Boat name: Excel Chalanger
Make: Highfield 380 Excel
Length: 4m +
Engine: 25 Yamaha 25Suzuki
MMSI: 235919522
Join Date: Oct 2014
Posts: 601
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That's half the price of a new one your money so you decide good luck in whatever form you take HH
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13 July 2020, 21:54
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Godalming
Boat name: Bumblebee
Make: Avon
Length: 4m +
Engine: yamaha 40hp 2stroke
Join Date: Oct 2017
Posts: 151
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Thanks man. I do have a sentimental attachment to it. The unpleasant extras are probably going to bring it pretty even between the two. I would probably get a new sr4 if I could transplant the dashboard etc into it, but the boatyard are saying it's not possible which is rather frustrating
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13 July 2020, 21:59
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Retford
Boat name: Spy-sea-one
Make: Excel 435
Length: 4m +
Engine: Suzuki Outboard/25/4
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 7,529
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For interest why is the dash so important?
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13 July 2020, 22:08
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Godalming
Boat name: Bumblebee
Make: Avon
Length: 4m +
Engine: yamaha 40hp 2stroke
Join Date: Oct 2017
Posts: 151
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I just really really like that setup. My dad took me up 4m waves in the thing when it was more seaworthy and it just feels more secure and comfortable than jockey seating. I have no friends so the lack of extra seats doesn't matter much to me haha
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13 July 2020, 22:16
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Administrator
Country: UK - England
Town: Brighton
Length: 3m +
Join Date: May 2000
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How mad am I?
It’s clearly a boat that you like and works for you. If £6-8k will effectively get you a boat that’s as good as new then why not if you can afford it?
You won’t get it all back if you decide to sell, but that’s the same on any new boat.
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13 July 2020, 22:26
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RIBnet supporter
Country: UK - England
Town: Cowes
Boat name: Clear Dawn
Make: Cormate
Length: 7m +
Engine: Verado 200
MMSI: 235924981
Join Date: Feb 2016
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I sold mine cheap for £3k mint condition, original tubes and a 3 year oldish 50 HP Etec with about 60 hours on it. White hull and well looked after.
I could maybe have got about another 500 quid but I needed to sell quickly! If you really love the boat then go for it but you won’t get the money back.
The best bit is a new engine if you’re used to an old one, try saying ‘it’s a revelation’ in a northern accent - it’s that good!!
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13 July 2020, 22:32
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Surrey
Boat name: ocean pro 6.3
Make: Humber
Length: 6m +
Engine: 140hp suzuki
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 824
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Clearly a labour of love and the sentimental value can’t always be financially measured. Boating rarely makes financial sense, we all do it because we just love it - the financial side, we glaze over in one form or another.
Enjoy it and document it with lots of photos! Enjoy! Look forward to seeing the progress.
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13 July 2020, 22:43
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Godalming
Boat name: Bumblebee
Make: Avon
Length: 4m +
Engine: yamaha 40hp 2stroke
Join Date: Oct 2017
Posts: 151
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Originally Posted by Ferryman
I sold mine cheap for £3k mint condition, original tubes and a 3 year oldish 50 HP Etec with about 60 hours on it. White hull and well looked after.
I could maybe have got about another 500 quid but I needed to sell quickly! If you really love the boat then go for it but you won’t get the money back.
The best bit is a new engine if you’re used to an old one, try saying ‘it’s a revelation’ in a northern accent - it’s that good!!
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Oh my god I would have bitten your arm off if I knew. My family have had very bad luck with modern engines. We went through 5 years of pain and suffering with an f40g with fuel injector troubles and the alternator has just blown on our 3 year old Mercury 150. I think I'm just going to give it a load of love as the engine I've got is bulletproof. Never fails unless I've run out of juice. Already done a few things like replacing the atrocious stock spark plug caps with NGK, going to change the coils and clean the carbs for better idling and maybe some of roflhats more sane alterations to make it sing a bit more
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13 July 2020, 22:45
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Godalming
Boat name: Bumblebee
Make: Avon
Length: 4m +
Engine: yamaha 40hp 2stroke
Join Date: Oct 2017
Posts: 151
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Originally Posted by xpertski
Clearly a labour of love and the sentimental value can’t always be financially measured. Boating rarely makes financial sense, we all do it because we just love it - the financial side, we glaze over in one form or another.
Enjoy it and document it with lots of photos! Enjoy! Look forward to seeing the progress.
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Me too, I might still have some affection in my heart for it but my girlfriend definitely doesn't approve. Also I'm a little tired of having the tattiest boat in the Carrick roads 😂 with any luck it'll be back up for another 40 fun years
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