how much it worth

[Tony]

Originally Posted by rupert

the Italian article (which is very good, BTW) and my conversations with rib manufacturers have convinced me of your opinion, too.

BTW, be interesting to know at what speeds other boats get on the plane and stay there?

We have a stepped hull on the Cougar..The handling is awesome..We can hairpin turn at 50 knots plus...getting on the plane is very quick aswell.
You need a powerful motor though to get the benefits.

[cuttlefish]

After watching the videos you put in the power-racing part of the forum, I wouldn't mind your boat myself to dash backwards and forwards from Guernsey to Sark. How does it hold up in nasty weather to Carteret?

At what speed does it goes on to (and fall off) plane?

rupert
p.s. Lovely looking boat!

[Cookee]

Originally Posted by Tony

You need a powerful motor though to get the benefits.

I would disagree with you on that Tony - a stepped hull that is working correctly will be faster than a regular Vee meaning you can have less power and perform the same!

[codprawn]

Originally Posted by rupert

Your link makes interesting reading - I didn't know Shearwater ribs. One thing I found interesting was the specs. of the boat of the boat put it in the same league as many of the other big players you often read about, but this is carefully descrbed as having an RCD category C rating. Most of the others have a category B. Now we all know that these ratings mean very little practically, but this detailed explanation (they don't just state Cat. C, but also go into some depth as to what Cat C. means and the kind of seas you can use it in) is interesting.

Having said that, some of the reviews talk of trips having been made all around - Wales, and Southern Ireland.

One thing I am not convinced of is what, in the picture, looks like a stepped hull. A concept which, BTW, has been violently slated (being described as showy nonsense) in this month's equivalent of Rib International. They consider it as being dangerous when loading onto trailers, and ridiculous on a rib in heavy seas - comparable to having a spoiler on a Land Rover! Albeit, they accept that the stepped hull has its merits in racing. The article also shows a picture of a stepped hull rib turtled and remaining so.

Having said that, I like the look of the Shearwater.

The Shearwater hull is designed by Ring who certainly know a thing or 2 about hull design!!!

I am not sure if the Shearwater hull is stepped???

There are good and bad stepped hulls just like everything else. They tend to work best at speed in short chops.

Just look (and listen) at this Revenger with an Ilmor V10 - almost 90mph!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XK-kuGzg4k8

[cuttlefish]

I agree with you about Ring, although I have seen quite a lot of Ring boats for sale recently. I would have thought they would have been snapped up quick, and that is not the case.

I also do like the Shearwater, especially the cabin.

Rupert

[Tony]

Originally Posted by rupert

After watching the videos you put in the power-racing part of the forum, I wouldn't mind your boat myself to dash backwards and forwards from Guernsey to Sark. How does it hold up in nasty weather to Carteret?

At what speed does it goes on to (and fall off) plane?

rupert
p.s. Lovely looking boat!

I have no problem with rough weather..My rib is designed for speed, so it would not perform as well as a larger toobed barge.......lol

[Tony]

Originally Posted by Cookee

I would disagree with you on that Tony - a stepped hull that is working correctly will be faster than a regular Vee meaning you can have less power and perform the same!

Why have a less powerfull engine when you can have a bigger engine performing better and which runs more efficient at high speeds?

[Tony]

Originally Posted by codprawn

The Shearwater hull is designed by Ring who certainly know a thing or 2 about hull design!!!

I am not sure if the Shearwater hull is stepped???

There are good and bad stepped hulls just like everything else. They tend to work best at speed in short chops.

Just look (and listen) at this Revenger with an Ilmor V10 - almost 90mph!!!

and the cost is...........

[cuttlefish]

what was the cost of yours?

[Tony]

Originally Posted by rupert

what was the cost of yours?

cheeky.......

[cuttlefish]

Us Sarkees have long memories, and I remember in an ooooold post that you mentioned that a new Cougar would cost a bit less than Magnum's if you took the VAT off, so there you are....

Come to think of it, I could buy Magnum's. He probaboy thraped the b....s of it.
He ought to drop the price now. It's been on the market for a couple of years.

Give me a call Magnum, if you want to sell it!

[Tony]

Originally Posted by rupert

Us Sarkees have long memories, and I remember in an ooooold post that you mentioned that a new Cougar would cost a bit less than Magnum's if you took the VAT off, so there you are....

Come to think of it, I could buy Magnum's. He probaboy thraped the b....s of it.
He ought to drop the price now. It's been on the market for a couple of years.

Give me a call Magnum, if you want to sell it!

I think Magnums is sold now...You are right about the Cougar sort of....If you want one I can get a good discount for you..!!

[cuttlefish]

You know, Tony, I had never visited the rib racing section before, and I am getting quite a thirst for it (and so is my little one). So, yes, if you feel like it, drop me a pm on the cost of a boat like yours. I might change my whole mindset and forget drying ribbing and get into the wet set.

[Tony]

Originally Posted by rupert

You know, Tony, I had never visited the rib racing section before, and I am getting quite a thirst for it (and so is my little one). So, yes, if you feel like it, drop me a pm on the cost of a boat like yours. I might change my whole mindset and forget drying ribbing and get into the wet set.

I missed this last post..I have been involved with the GPa this year and racing is a lot of fun..The biggest problem for most is that warranties are void if the boat is raced..so no racing for me..Speak to Hugh from Sark he has been racing

[PeterM]

Originally Posted by codprawn

The Shearwater hull is designed by Ring who certainly know a thing or 2 about hull design!!!

I am not sure if the Shearwater hull is stepped???

nope plain V hull - though I have heard there may be a 'new' 10m version soon - again not sure if it will have a step or follow the other 10m RING hulls.