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21 August 2011, 22:25
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How not to launch a boat.
Brand new Range Rover taking a swim. Pics taken today at Cemaes bay Anglesey
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21 August 2011, 22:36
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at least they could of taken the strap off first !
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21 August 2011, 22:37
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Oh dear. Stupidity or unlucky? Leaving straps on would be the former
Not new steve, a good decade old I'd say judging by headlamps.
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21 August 2011, 22:40
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Country: UK - England
Town: Ashton-under-Lyne Lancs
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Originally Posted by HUMBER P4VWL
Oh dear. Stupidity or unlucky? Leaving straps on would be the former
Not new steve, a good decade old I'd say judging by headlamps.
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me thinks the former.
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21 August 2011, 22:46
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Town: Huisnes sur Mer
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Always risky business taking a Land Rover within 50 meters of water........the ones i previously owned used to break down as soon as the relative humidity in the air passed the 40% mark .
Simon
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21 August 2011, 23:16
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Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Aberdeenshire
Boat name: Sula
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Which part of 'unhook the boat' didn't they understand?
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21 August 2011, 23:22
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Did it drive out - or was it floating? looks as though they were pushing in photo 2 and sinking in photo 3!
It is a P38a (prev. generation) and the lights show that it is a pre-face lift model (indicators go white later) so probably 1996 / 7 ish...
Depending on petrol v diesel and whether the water got to the ecu it might have been able to cope with that... air intake is above the battery right under the bonnet lid on the front right when facing it - so if diesel the engine will be fine - just depends on electrics... wading depth is 500mm, which is less than that - but they will go through much deeper - biggest problem is electronics with ecus under seats...
great fun though!
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21 August 2011, 23:43
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Country: UK - England
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Originally Posted by akirk
Did it drive out - or was it floating? looks as though they were pushing in photo 2 and sinking in photo 3!
It is a P38a (prev. generation) and the lights show that it is a pre-face lift model (indicators go white later) so probably 1996 / 7 ish...
Depending on petrol v diesel and whether the water got to the ecu it might have been able to cope with that... air intake is above the battery right under the bonnet lid on the front right when facing it - so if diesel the engine will be fine - just depends on electrics... wading depth is 500mm, which is less than that - but they will go through much deeper - biggest problem is electronics with ecus under seats...
great fun though!
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it did have what looked like a 10 plate on it that's why I thought it was new,,ish
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21 August 2011, 23:56
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Which part of 'unhook the boat' didn't they understand?
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I hear they just posted on the other forum saying they could not get there hard boat to plane ! any suggestions!
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22 August 2011, 00:00
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Originally Posted by kerny
it did have what looked like a 10 plate on it that's why I thought it was new,,ish
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enlarging it in photoshop - looks more like an A prefix private plate but difficult to say def. the same generation as mine!
Alasdair
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22 August 2011, 00:02
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if had 10 plate then it could have been ex-police, CG , etc.
I have always doubted about the capability of range rovers. I have seen so many of them incapable of getting themselves out of mud, etc..
This one is from a lifeboat Website:
RANGE ROVER BEATEN BY THE TIDE
An unfortunate soul (and his girlfriend) thought it would be a bit of fun to explore the foreshore of the Thames in a new Range Rover Sport. They hadn't accounted for a mud pool or the rising tide. Some residents of nearby houseboats were concerned that the rising tide would sweep the vehicle onto their moorings. They tried vainly to dig out the Range Rover, now up to its axles. The driver was trying to phone a friend to try to arrange a JCB, - it never arrived. The fire brigade attended but did not have equipment to free the vehicle. Eventually the police persuaded the couple to leave the Range Rover before it was submerged.
After ensuring that all on the foreshore were safe the lifeboat crew tied a fender to the vehicle as a marker and secured it to the bank to stop it drifting. Overnight, the vehicle was completely submerged. In the morning the PLA decided that the waterlogged hulk was a hazard to navigation and used their driftwood crane to remove it during the next high tide.
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22 August 2011, 00:11
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To be fair that should read - Range Rover beaten by its driver
mud is difficult in any 4x4 - and I would guess he had road tyres on...
don't want to be too supportive - after all they break down as soon as you touch anything electronic , however they are extremely competent if driven properly and with proper rubber on them - I have owned three, my LWB classic walked all over a defender when we did our BORDA course together, the P38A I now have has done some incredible things in snow and water including towing 5 1/2 tonnes of laden truck up a steep snowy hill... on standard road tyres, the classic pulled a stuck L200 & trailer & 18ft motor boat out of the sand a couple of years ago but then I did make sure that I was on solid ground
it is all in how you drive them!
Alasdair
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22 August 2011, 07:13
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Quote:
Originally Posted by akirk
To be fair that should read - Range Rover beaten by its driver
mud is difficult in any 4x4 - and I would guess he had road tyres on...
don't want to be too supportive - after all they break down as soon as you touch anything electronic , however they are extremely competent if driven properly and with proper rubber on them - I have owned three, my LWB classic walked all over a defender when we did our BORDA course together, the P38A I now have has done some incredible things in snow and water including towing 5 1/2 tonnes of laden truck up a steep snowy hill... on standard road tyres, the classic pulled a stuck L200 & trailer & 18ft motor boat out of the sand a couple of years ago but then I did make sure that I was on solid ground
it is all in how you drive them!
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You were brave owning a P38A Alasdair. Bet you were Paddocks best customer for a while ;-)
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22 August 2011, 08:30
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Yep mud is bitch with road tyres on.
Had mine stuck with normal tyres on but with descent off road tyres it never got stuck in anything.
also rule number 1 when in water NEVER turn off the engine.
water gets sucked up the exhaust pipe and into the cats/engine nasty ..
and yep having the ECU and Relays under the passenger seat is a pain in the arse!
It looked like it would have been fine. the air intakes are begind the pasenger side head light so as long as that is out of the water and you dont turn it off they re usuall ok.
But within 10 mins of it being in the sea the floor would of rotted away lol.
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22 August 2011, 08:50
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Devonmark35
You were brave owning a P38A Alasdair. Bet you were Paddocks best customer for a while ;-)
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Still own it - only car for the last 2 1/2 years (unless you count the 50 yr old landrover!) - couple of minor problems - otherwise fantastic car - just taken it 900 miles to Scotland and back with no problems - as long as you keep on top of any issues it is fine - mind you Tim Fry (where I bought it) did initially replace a lot of bits under warranty
a lot of motor for the money...
Alasdair
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22 August 2011, 09:01
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Originally Posted by akirk
Still own it - only car for the last 2 1/2 years (unless you count the 50 yr old landrover!) - couple of minor problems - otherwise fantastic car - just taken it 900 miles to Scotland and back with no problems - as long as you keep on top of any issues it is fine - mind you Tim Fry (where I bought it) did initially replace a lot of bits under warranty
a lot of motor for the money...
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Nice Landie and as you say alot of motor for not alot of money. I was always put off the 38 only because when I was thinking of changing my old classic and the wifes car I knew the new model was comming out to replace it so decided to save my pennies for a new one - thats had its far share of "issues" though! Like you say only minor - honestly ;-). Thinking about changing that in this year - what to get next????
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22 August 2011, 09:38
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Somebody should have told him it wasn't going to fit in the boot.
Perhaps he could get a wider door?
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22 August 2011, 10:18
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Country: UK - England
Town: yorkshire
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He should have got a proper Landi ,,with holes in the doors .
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22 August 2011, 11:41
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Town: Anglesey
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Thats awesome !! I like to sit on my decking looking at the "classic launch fails" most weekends on our beach.... although 9 times out of 10 I go and resuce them on my tractor
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22 August 2011, 14:20
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Country: UK - England
Town: Ashton-under-Lyne Lancs
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Thats awesome !! I like to sit on my decking looking at the "classic launch fails" most weekends on our beach.... although 9 times out of 10 I go and resuce them on my tractor
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ca'chink, ca'chink I can see the pound signs in your eyes already. is that what helped to pay for your decking ??
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