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03 June 2012, 09:26
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how refurb my hull
hi, can you tell me if gel gone, ie got black grains in it shall i paint or re gel ?
one guy on keyed and flowcoated his hull but wont that flake ?
thanks adrian
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03 June 2012, 20:20
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Quote:
Originally Posted by falcon0310
hi, can you tell me if gel gone, ie got black grains in it shall i paint or re gel ?
one guy on keyed and flowcoated his hull but wont that flake ?
thanks adrian
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I would prep it and spray with decent 2k product
Personally I would only use acrythane but that's my preference but sticks like shi@ to a blanket
Proper route is gel and styrene mix but it's a skill full process to get right and expensive
Prep epoxy primer and acrythane dogs dangles trust me
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03 June 2012, 20:25
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04 June 2012, 00:47
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How big is the area you need to do? I've done patches up to about 4 sq in as a novice with gel and it was straightforward.
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04 June 2012, 09:41
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I think I asked this once before but what process did you use to get from the bottom image to the top?
Thanks.
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04 June 2012, 20:14
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Originally Posted by Orville
I think I asked this once before but what process did you use to get from the bottom image to the top?
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I 180 grit with air sander applied gel in badly gouged areas, brush it on then put Sellotape over it. Till cured sand to shape again,
Mask off where req heavy coat of epoxy 2k primer 180 sand more primer 320 grit. 800 grit wet n dry with plenty soap in water flat for hrs
I first coat with thick mix orange peel effect, further sand 800 then nail it 5ltr acrythane or polyester top coat
Leave week then mop it to achieve a mint finish
Easy huh?
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05 June 2012, 10:37
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Originally Posted by nugent
I 180 grit with air sander applied gel in badly gouged areas, brush it on then put Sellotape over it. Till cured sand to shape again,
Mask off where req heavy coat of epoxy 2k primer 180 sand more primer 320 grit. 800 grit wet n dry with plenty soap in water flat for hrs
I first coat with thick mix orange peel effect, further sand 800 then nail it 5ltr acrythane or polyester top coat
Leave week then mop it to achieve a mint finish
Easy huh?
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Thanks,
Well mine looks like the bottom picture at the moment..........not sure it will ever look like the top one
What is the orange peel effect you mention please?
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05 June 2012, 16:50
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paint is applied at a thick viscosity (hardly any solvent added as thinning agent)
causing a lumpy textured finish if that makes any sence, helps fill any imperfections
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05 June 2012, 17:17
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so what did you do with your 21 ? as i can get guy to spay gel on
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05 June 2012, 17:23
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that just 2 pack paint ?
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05 June 2012, 17:43
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Richard B
How big is the area you need to do? I've done patches up to about 4 sq in as a novice with gel and it was straightforward.
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what did you do spay it ?
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05 June 2012, 18:20
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Quote:
Originally Posted by falcon0310
what did you do spay it ?
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Sorry mate no phone again I will ring you am promise,
The 21 had the hull sprayed in 2k paint before I purchased it,,
Honestly paint is fine and a lot less hassle I've done it so many times with mega results it's all in the prep, lucky for me we have a hell of a hi-ab truck at work and turning a craft over is dead easy ,,,, but I did the osprey on the trailer, I covered the trailer in grease just prior to shooting paint better than trying to mask it all off. There after just jet washed it off
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05 June 2012, 18:28
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This was a bad application of a gel coat, any dampness water moisture this is what can happen
Console actually peeled away in layers as this not good
The hull prepped then paint
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