How to get a searider upside down

JSP · 07 February 2010, 19:30

Ok this isn't what you think it is by the title.

I want to flip my 5.4 searider over to repair the nicks and flocoat the hull.
Something I should have thought about before glassing in a console

but I always do things arse about tit.

Only way I can think of doing it is to flip it over on to blocks of wood.
But would the deck support the weight? I was thinking of making T shaped blocks of wood. The top of the T spreading the weight over the deck. Obviously high enough so the console clears the ground.

Another thing to take into account is due to room, it could only be supported up near the bow and between the transom legs.

What do ya think ladies and gents?

chewy · 07 February 2010, 19:35

Just fo it as it as.
It'll end in tears trying to turn it over mate.

jambo · 07 February 2010, 19:40

God i was getting all excited when i saw the title too!!
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JSP · 07 February 2010, 19:44

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Originally Posted by chewy

Just fo it as it as.
It'll end in tears trying to turn it over mate.

Would make life allot easier with it turned over mate. Can get enough hands to do it or even get use of a small crane at the dock.

But bad idea?

Poly · 07 February 2010, 20:11

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Originally Posted by JSP

Would make life allot easier with it turned over mate. Can get enough hands to do it or even get use of a small crane at the dock.

But bad idea?

Could that small crane be used to lift the boat so you get access to the bits you need off the trailer? and keep it the right way up. Alternatively let Jono Garton take it for a play and you can fix the underside before rerighting it!

willk · 07 February 2010, 20:20

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Originally Posted by Polwart

Alternatively let Jono Garton take it for a play !

Oooo! That's Incitement, or is it Entrapment?

JSP · 07 February 2010, 20:22

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Originally Posted by Polwart

Could that small crane be used to lift the boat so you get access to the bits you need off the trailer? and keep it the right way up. Alternatively let Jono Garton take it for a play and you can fix the underside before rerighting it!

It's more a case of gravity with doing gel coat repairs and flocoat. But it's something I hadn't thought about. If I decide not to flip it over (which is starting to go out the window) I was going to try and work around the rollers on the trailer. But working round the straps on the crane would be allot easier. Cheers for the idea mate!

C-NUMB · 07 February 2010, 20:47

How about doin to job half and half...I mean you turn the hull to 90 degrees vertical or litle more (pending on the balance) leaning against something. That way you can have a pretty comfortable working position. That You can do with manpower only i guess. When first half completed you turn the other side. I dont know how the tubes like this, but without the engine maybe it is not too much?

chewy · 07 February 2010, 20:53

Just stick it in the water so you can't see the chips!

Poly · 07 February 2010, 22:12

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Originally Posted by JSP

It's more a case of gravity with doing gel coat repairs and flocoat. But it's something I hadn't thought about. If I decide not to flip it over (which is starting to go out the window) I was going to try and work around the rollers on the trailer. But working round the straps on the crane would be allot easier. Cheers for the idea mate!

JSP - not sure how big / serious you are trying to fix - but bigger gouges can be fixed with filler like car body filler and its pretty thick so will stay in place OKish upside down, and anything minor isn't worth filling - its a Searider - its not meant to look polished. You'll probably waste 4 days when you could be on the water - just rolling it over, tarting it up, and rolling it back - and it won't got any faster or be any safer afterwards.

JSP · 07 February 2010, 22:26

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Originally Posted by Polwart

JSP - not sure how big / serious you are trying to fix - but bigger gouges can be fixed with filler like car body filler and its pretty thick so will stay in place OKish upside down, and anything minor isn't worth filling - its a Searider - its not meant to look polished. You'll probably waste 4 days when you could be on the water - just rolling it over, tarting it up, and rolling it back - and it won't got any faster or be any safer afterwards.

They're only small nicks prob caused by the trailer. I'm just going to use the gell coat and cellotape method to fill as I find it the easiest. So still possible with it the right way up.
Flocoat how ever runs like a Garf after a Willk.

Ah feck it, doing it on the trailer me thinks.

JSP · 07 February 2010, 22:27

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Originally Posted by C-NUMB

How about doin to job half and half...I mean you turn the hull to 90 degrees vertical or litle more (pending on the balance) leaning against something. That way you can have a pretty comfortable working position. That You can do with manpower only i guess. When first half completed you turn the other side. I dont know how the tubes like this, but without the engine maybe it is not too much?

I think I get what you mean Numbs

Fr@nky · 08 February 2010, 04:32

I've removed antifauling with interstrip.
Now sanding the hull, an going to paint it with high build coating.
I'll have four spots wich i have to paint when the rib is back on the trailer.

Sonar · 08 February 2010, 07:25

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Originally Posted by JSP

I think I get what you mean Numbs

I would have thought that was the best option so long as the tubes are protected by laying some old carpet under the tubes first.

Funny this topic was posted I was just thinking of repairing a few scratches myself .
But decided i would leave them in the end .

Seen adverts all over the net saying hull very good condition normal wear and tear to bottom.
Then it seemed i was not to bothered about it.

matt h · 08 February 2010, 08:06

chuck it over

doggypaddle · 08 February 2010, 10:09

how many man job is it matt? or is it one man a landrover and a long strap!

r mcdonald · 08 February 2010, 10:43

If you are only repairing a few dings leave it on the trailer. If you are doing the whole hull flip it over. Gravity will help alot when you are sanding and there will be alot of sanding to do. Spraying the hull will be much easier with the hull up sidedown. I have flipped my old searider over on my own with the engine removed beforehand, Once flipped I stood the hull on some sawhorses' on the deck and chocked them up to a good working height, deflated the collar so I didn't have to lean in so far,( much easier on the back). The searider hull isn't very heavy.

Below is a pic of my latest creation being fliped over with some help. We used 4 chain blocks and some webbing. Lifting one side up and lowering the other side at the same time.
the hull is about 7m long and weighs about 670 kgs and two of us did it easily with control.
good luck
regards
rpm

matt h · 08 February 2010, 10:44

easy doggy>> 1 oap, 1 girlfriend and me

JSP · 08 February 2010, 10:47

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Originally Posted by matt h

easy doggy>> 1 oap, 1 girlfriend and me

Is the OAP and girlfriend the same person?

Can't flip it over like you did Mr H. The console is in the way and it's glassed to the deck.

P.S. Hope life grand with you matey

r mcdonald · 08 February 2010, 10:51

JSP
The way I flipped it you can keep it off the ground the whole time.
regards
rpm