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15 September 2011, 22:38
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Country: Ireland
Length: 4m +
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You know Gordy, it looks to me as if there might be a market for failed injectors - even if it only is beer money....
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15 September 2011, 22:39
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Country: UK - England
Town: South Yorks
Boat name: Black Pig
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: DF140a
MMSI: 235111389
Join Date: Feb 2008
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Originally Posted by GordyP
Sooo, the boat has been at the workshop to try to get the engines sorted as a result of drawing through salt water from the bust tank.
Oh, how I've laughed at now having to replace 12, yes thats 12 injectors.
Bloody boats.
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Have you checked your insurance, you might be covered
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15 September 2011, 22:42
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Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Glasgow
Boat name: Thunder
Make: Halmatic Arctic 22
Length: 6m +
Engine: 2 x 150 Etec
Join Date: Oct 2008
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Originally Posted by Chris
Noooooo
Sorry to hear of your nightmares...
What did you pay for the injectors in the end (i'm almost afraid to ask !)
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I'm paying just under £300 per injector.
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16 September 2011, 01:36
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Country: Other
Town: Stanley, Falkland Is
Boat name: Seawolf
Make: Osprey Vipermax 5.8
Length: 5m +
Engine: Etec 150
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 3,726
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Ouch.....
Any of the saddos who dissect one, can you post some pics up so this saddo can have a look too. Not worth a second mortgage for the postage on something broken
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16 September 2011, 07:23
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Country: UK - England
Town: South Yorks
Boat name: Black Pig
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: DF140a
MMSI: 235111389
Join Date: Feb 2008
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Originally Posted by BogMonster
Ouch.....
Any of the saddos who dissect one, can you post some pics up so this saddo can have a look too. Not worth a second mortgage for the postage on something broken
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Will do, look out for the "show us your dead injector" thread, it'll be in the "Sad Geek" section
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16 September 2011, 09:50
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Country: UK - Scotland
Boat name: Wildheart
Make: Humber/Delta Seasafe
Length: 5m +
Engine: Merc 60 Clamshell
MMSI: 235068449
Join Date: Apr 2007
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suddenly a replacement carb seems like beer money......
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16 September 2011, 12:50
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Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Glasgow
Boat name: Thunder
Make: Halmatic Arctic 22
Length: 6m +
Engine: 2 x 150 Etec
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 523
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I'm going to try the insurers. I think the problem will be that there is no event to link a claim too, its fair to assume that the knackered welds could have been caused by vibration/bangs from general use.
It would be more straightforward if I had just run the thing into the rocks!
Anyway given the total cost of repair is going to be about £5k its worth a try.
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16 September 2011, 15:56
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Country: UK - Scotland
Make: HumberOceanOffshore
Length: 8m +
Engine: Volvo KAD300/DPX
Join Date: Oct 2002
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Although you haven't said, I'll put money on your tank being stainless. The tank is bound to flex in use as will the boat. Stainless is a risk, especially close to welded areas, it hates flexing. Go for an alloy tank as a replacement if you can. Although, like Bogmonster, I'd have expected fuel out before water in unless the water puddles over the crack.
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16 September 2011, 17:25
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Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Glasgow
Boat name: Thunder
Make: Halmatic Arctic 22
Length: 6m +
Engine: 2 x 150 Etec
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 523
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Yes, the tank was stainless, it wasn't an original Halmatic one and the welds looked a bit ropey. The Arctic has an open transom, so when laden and at rest the back of the tank ends up underwater, hence the water seeping in.
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17 September 2011, 00:36
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Country: UK - Scotland
Make: HumberOceanOffshore
Length: 8m +
Engine: Volvo KAD300/DPX
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OK, that makes sense but since the tank is subject to sea water then my advice is different in that you'll have to choose your alloy wisely should you decide to use aluminium alloy rather than stainless steel.
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17 September 2011, 00:55
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Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Glasgow
Boat name: Thunder
Make: Halmatic Arctic 22
Length: 6m +
Engine: 2 x 150 Etec
Join Date: Oct 2008
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New stainless tank is already in, this one has decent welds and is made of thicker sheet.
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17 September 2011, 01:32
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Country: UK - England
Town: plymouth
Make: Ribtec
Length: 6m +
Engine: Mercury 200 verado
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 412
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Oh, how this reads just like my under deck tank.I have been suffering from exactly the same problem.. The tanks were pressure tested when fitted and I think are encased in some type of expanding yet still I manage to get water in them! I cant find any petrol running out of the drainage channel into the transom well but I have resorted to using a 30l external tank until I can get them properly looked over during the winter.
Did you not consider a plastic tank?
I thought my bill was bad last year @ £500 for the engine to be flushed through and an injector replaced...Yours just makes me cry!
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17 September 2011, 09:44
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Gloucestershire
Boat name: Osprey
Make: Osprey Vipermax
Length: 5m +
Engine: E-tec 300 G2
MMSI: TBC
Join Date: Dec 2006
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Osprey tanks are all made out of GRP the guy who builds the hulls molds all the tanks as well. I have never heard of an Osprey tank cracking..
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03 October 2011, 12:09
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Glasgow
Boat name: Thunder
Make: Halmatic Arctic 22
Length: 6m +
Engine: 2 x 150 Etec
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 523
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Got the boat back on Friday, engines running smoother than ever before. Trying an insurance claim for the damage, got my fingers crossed but not counting on it.
For those that want them I now have 12 knackered injectors sitting in my garage, as soon as I know that the insurance co doesn't need them anyone who wants to take one is very welcome.
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15 March 2012, 12:45
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Glasgow
Boat name: Thunder
Make: Halmatic Arctic 22
Length: 6m +
Engine: 2 x 150 Etec
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 523
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For those that may find themselves in this same situation.
After a bit of arguing I managed to get the insurers to pay for the cost of the new injectors on the basis that this was collaterell damage from the cracked fuel tank, I have paid for the new tank myself. Bishop Skinner were a great help on this and gave great service.
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