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03 June 2013, 23:35
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Member
Country: UK - England
Make: OSPREY
Length: 5m +
Join Date: Nov 2005
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Originally Posted by willk
You must have very good knowledge of them by now Gotchi, having replaced most of your factory fitted electronics, general wiring and fuel system after what, three years of ownership...?
As Mollers says, great hull!
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We are not going to get into a discussion about how Roy Bishop rigged the boats or who he used to fit engines as Roy has not been involved with Osprey for close to two years now and is clearly not here to defend himself.
Bold and sweeping statements from individuals who have had an experience with a single rib are commonplace here and this will not change.
Rest assured Osprey have been around longer than most and will continue to be here for a while yet. Our Ribs are well built and we stand by the quality of the workmanship across ALL areas of the boats we produce.
Good to see the forum Admin team looking after their trade members so well BTW
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03 June 2013, 23:46
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Member
Country: UK - Wales
Town: N Wales Chester
Boat name: Mr Smith
Make: Humber
Length: 6m +
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 5,238
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I've cruised alongside a few osprey viper max in rough weather. I personally think the hulls are very impressive.
Fit out is exactly that, you get as good as you pay for with experience being key.
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03 June 2013, 23:52
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Member
Country: UK - Wales
Town: Southampton
Boat name: DynaMoHumm/ SRV/deja
Make: Avon8.4, 5.4 & 4.777
Length: 8m +
Engine: Cat3126 Yam 90 &70
MMSI: 42
Join Date: Dec 2003
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Construction hull and tubes is better/superior on the Osprey
Sea Keeping would be between the Ribeye and the Osprey
225 is plenty of power to test yourself with on any of the ribs
re the fitout keep you foot on the neck of whoevers doing it and it should all go quite well
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04 June 2013, 00:00
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Fareham
Length: 6m +
Join Date: Sep 2003
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I've had my Vipermax 6 years, so I'll bear testament to the build quality of the Hull and Seat bases. I had tube issues but that was Eurocraft before the Management buyout. I've just found some resin from the fiberglass tank in my fuel line, but using a pre-filter right above the tank outlet should solve that problem.
Although my RIB is a 6.2m, I've been extremely happy with the performance. Fair enough I wish it could travel a little faster at WOT but I'm still happy with my choice 6 years on.
Incidentally I didn't have any problem with the fit-out....I did it myself
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04 June 2013, 00:36
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RIBnet admin team
Country: UK - England
Town: The wilds of Wiltshire
Boat name: Dominator
Make: SR5.4
Length: 7m +
Engine: Yam 85
MMSI: 235055163
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 13,069
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OSPREY RIBS
Good to see the forum Admin team looking after their trade members so well BTW
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Are you insinuating you'd like posts edited or deleted if they don't show a trade member in a favourable light?
Has anyone heard from Channel Ribs lately?
I'm sure you really don't need us to defend you from something as high pitched and squeaky as a Gotchi attack.
And FWIW, I rather like Ospreys. I'd have one in a heartbeat.
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04 June 2013, 07:26
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Member
Country: UK - England
Make: OSPREY
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Posts: 166
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nos4r2
I'm sure you really don't need us to defend you from something as high pitched and squeaky as a Gotchi attack.
And FWIW, I rather like Ospreys. I'd have one in a heartbeat.
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Exactly ! I would hope the admin (especially the sage willk) would not base their opinions upon the sweeping statements of a teenager.
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04 June 2013, 07:53
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Wirral & Caernarfon
Boat name: That's Enuff
Make: Revenger & Avon SR4
Length: 7m +
Engine: Honda 150HP & 50HP
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 4,421
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when we bought our brand new Revenger 715, with a brand new Honda 150 and new trailer, we entrusted the wiring to the dealer, what a shambles, they even cable tied the wiring for lights, antenna etc to the outside of the A frame as they were too lazy to do the job properly lesson learnt!!
I agree with Humber Paul, 1st time for everything cruised with a few vipermax, excellent ribs, well built an well put together
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04 June 2013, 08:48
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RIBnet admin team
Country: UK - England
Town: The wilds of Wiltshire
Boat name: Dominator
Make: SR5.4
Length: 7m +
Engine: Yam 85
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OSPREY RIBS
Exactly ! I would hope the admin (especially the sage willk) would not base their opinions upon the sweeping statements of a teenager.
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Are you implying we might?!
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04 June 2013, 09:47
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RIBnet supporter
Country: UK - England
Town: Dinard, Brittany
Boat name: Into the Red
Make: Osprey Vipermax
Length: 7m +
Engine: Evinrude E-tec 250HO
MMSI: 235 076 114
Join Date: Apr 2009
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I'd love to know what you're all blaming me for now
I haven't made any sweeping statements or painted the current Osprey dealer in a negative light. If you reread my post it actually explains why I think our boat was not fitted out to the same standard as a factory boat. I have talked with the new Osprey dealer extensively about the various issues and I am confident new boats are fitted out to a much higher standard.
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04 June 2013, 10:23
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Member
Country: UK - Channel Islands
Town: jersey
Boat name: Martini II
Make: Arctic 28/FC470
Length: 8m +
Engine: twin 225Opti/50hp 2t
MMSI: 235067688
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 3,030
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To most of us Osprey is Osprey, no matter when, where, who etc, hence the sweeping statement.
BTW the suggestion that somebody would fit out their own boat to a far lower standard than they would a customers boat doesn't make a lot of sense to me. Did you beat them down on the purchase price by any chance?
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04 June 2013, 10:37
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RIBnet supporter
Country: UK - England
Town: Dinard, Brittany
Boat name: Into the Red
Make: Osprey Vipermax
Length: 7m +
Engine: Evinrude E-tec 250HO
MMSI: 235 076 114
Join Date: Apr 2009
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Quote:
Originally Posted by martini
To most of us Osprey is Osprey, no matter when, where, who etc,
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I understand that, but it is clear Osprey is now under new management who are keen to address whatever issues there were before.
Quote:
Originally Posted by martini
BTW the suggestion that somebody would fit out their own boat to a far lower standard than they would a customers boat doesn't make a lot of sense to me. Did you beat them down on the purchase price by any chance?
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I think it is a fair one to make. He tried to save money on his own boat but where it is someone else paying there is no incentive to cut corners. No, we didn't haggle at all actually. We felt the price was fair and we avoided haggling in order to keep goodwill, Roy ended up doing a lot of little things which we requested which amounted to the same sort of amount we could have gained by haggling.
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04 June 2013, 11:08
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#32
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Cornwall
Length: no boat
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 1,518
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OSPREY RIBS
Exactly ! I would hope the admin (especially the sage willk) would not base their opinions upon the sweeping statements of a teenager.
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No they probably won't but the rest of us may base an opinion on your condescending remarks about an Osprey owner.
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04 June 2013, 11:48
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RIBnet admin team
Country: Ireland
Length: 4m +
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 14,898
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OSPREY RIBS
Good to see the forum Admin team looking after their trade members so well BTW
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OSPREY RIBS
Exactly ! I would hope the admin (especially the sage willk) would not base their opinions upon the sweeping statements of a teenager.
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I'm fairly sure that I haven't expressed an opinion. In fact, I pointed out that I have only ever seen one Osprey up close (Deano's) and it looked like a fine RIB.
AFAIK, you've been looked after very well on here in your Trade capacity, up to and including having your posts deleted for you on occasion.
You have a couple of Osprey owners here with issues that they've been discussing on the forum previously and in this thread. You also have a huge support base. I have no axe to grind with any of you.
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04 June 2013, 13:27
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Member
Country: UK - Channel Islands
Town: A large rock
Boat name: La Frette
Make: Osprey Vipermax
Length: 6m +
Engine: 200 Suzzy
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 2,893
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Getting back to the OP, I think you should be making your decision more on quality and reputation than just appearance. You may have seen the smartest rib ever, but if it has a cheapo far eastern hull you'll end up disappointed.
As for quality of fit out - that all depends on your standards and expectations. Fit out is to some extent an art and what one person may think is fine might abhor another. The only way to guarantee my fit out met my standards was to do it myself. So far it has performed exactly as expected. In Gotchi's case there have been a catalogue of problems, some of which were Raymarine issues and nothing to do with whoever fitted the equipment. Some of the 'fixes' did leave a little to be desired even when done by supposed professionals in nearby islands.
I wouldn't hesitate to buy another Osprey, but I would do the fit out myself.
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04 June 2013, 17:33
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#35
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: South Yorks
Boat name: Black Pig
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: DF140a
MMSI: 235111389
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 12,167
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Erin
but I would do the fit out myself.
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If & when I ever buy another boat I would fit it out myself. I just find it ironic that to have fitted out my current boat myself, would have initially cost me more, but I would have saved both time & money in the long run.
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04 June 2013, 18:33
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#36
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Member
Country: UK - England
Length: no boat
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 543
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HUMBER P4VWL
I've cruised alongside a few osprey viper max in rough weather. I personally think the hulls are very impressive.
Fit out is exactly that, you get as good as you pay for with experience being key.
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That's right, I had a very smooth rid around Anglesey the other week!
That said my boat was built in late 1999 and has stood the test if time well. Looks a bit tired, but generally does 90% of the things I want from a rib. I'm a happy osprey owner.
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04 June 2013, 20:20
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Mighty Penryn
Boat name: Little Joe.
Make: Avon Searider
Length: 4m +
Engine: Honda BF50
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 8,872
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kernow Buoy
No they probably won't but the rest of us may base an opinion on your condescending remarks about an Osprey owner.
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Agreed.
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04 June 2013, 20:23
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#38
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Mighty Penryn
Boat name: Little Joe.
Make: Avon Searider
Length: 4m +
Engine: Honda BF50
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 8,872
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Silverfox
That's right, I had a very smooth rid around Anglesey the other week!
That said my boat was built in late 1999 and has stood the test if time well. Looks a bit tired, but generally does 90% of the things I want from a rib. I'm a happy osprey owner.
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"Tired"?!!
That's a cracking boat.
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26 June 2013, 13:31
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#39
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Mighty Penryn
Boat name: Little Joe.
Make: Avon Searider
Length: 4m +
Engine: Honda BF50
Join Date: Aug 2005
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No, you're confusing the issue. The defending of Roy Bishop was regarding his fit out of an Osprey hull, not the Osprey products.
Cheap shot.
Have second thoughts?
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26 June 2013, 14:23
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RIBnet admin team
Country: Ireland
Length: 4m +
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 14,898
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mollers
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Nah - wrong thread! Can't leave a duplicate post lying about...
You bumped this thread back up again though
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