How would you right 5mtr plus capsized rib.

kerny · 01 October 2013, 16:41

I hope it never happens but the possibilities are very real and unlike a sib, ribs are a lot heavier.

Has this happened to anyone on here and if so how did you managed to right it ?

It would be interesting to see if there are any techniques that could be used if you are unfortunate enough to end up in this situation.

captnjack · 01 October 2013, 17:06

Swim underneath and tie a mooring line to the deepest (strong) point, like a grab handle on the console. Run the line over the top of the overturned hull. Pull with as many bodies as you can muster leaning off the opposite side tube or even another boat.

Maximus · 01 October 2013, 17:13

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Originally Posted by kerny

I hope it never happens but the possibilities are very real and unlike a sib, ribs are a lot heavier.

Has this happened to anyone on here and if so how did you managed to right it ?

It would be interesting to see if there are any techniques that could be used if you are unfortunate enough to end up in this situation.

YOU WORRY TOO MUCH!

Bound to be Some bits on You-Tube

kerny · 01 October 2013, 17:18

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Originally Posted by Maximus

YOU WORRY TOO MUCH!

Bound to be Some bits on You-Tube

Its always handy to pick up a few tips

cant find anything on youtube.

Nasher · 01 October 2013, 17:27

Having had to do this, twice

, but with a 4m Flatacraft, I can confirm that Capt j's method is the right approach.

A line or two tied off on one side and thrown over the hull.
Climb up the hull on the other side whilst leaning back and over she'll come - right on top of you.

DON'T then try the engine, it's no doubt ingested some water and you don't want to learn about hydraulic lock and the effect it has on conrods.

Nasher.

Maximus · 01 October 2013, 17:30

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Originally Posted by kerny

Its always handy to pick up a few tips

cant find anything on youtube.

Blimey sure I've seen footage somewhere Steve.
Got an Old B.S.A.C training manual here with full instructions and Diagrams.They use the Rope Crew and WIND to help Right a Flipped Craft- but even a 5m on your own would be a Hand-full I reckon,but maybe possible.
Would all depend on coditions...and what you were wearing...Trouble is if your wet Cold and then exhausted by your efforts...may be better to stay WITH/ON the Boat and wait for help??...Handheld would be pretty valuable then for sure!

When was the last time you went out alone when it was knarley??
Anyway you still worry too much!

SPR · 01 October 2013, 17:59

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kc5znB3ce_8&sns=em

S.

kerny · 01 October 2013, 18:09

It's a lot easier with a sib Scott but a rib is much heavier.

I suppose the only other way is to attach the ropes to another boat.

JamesF · 01 October 2013, 18:12

I've wondered about this for a long time too. I've never quite found out what happened in our club's two capsize incidents. They were both in waves near the beach, so they may just have gone ashore upside-down with whatever lump was coming behind them.

Given how difficult sailors sometimes find it to get small, light dinghies upright, I wouldn't fancy my chances with a RIB turned turtle. On my own, I'm not sure I'd even try.

Would it be more trouble than it's worth to partially deflate the tubes on one side, then use righting lines like Nasher and capnjack said?

SPR · 01 October 2013, 18:14

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Originally Posted by kerny

It's a lot easier with a sib Scott but a rib is much heavier. I suppose the only other way is to attach the ropes to another boat.

same principal - we had the MOD police up with there capsize rib before it was banned ..

they deflated one if the back chambers the one that was behind . the righters and crossed ropes and went for a walk up its as in the sub video

S.

Dhf · 01 October 2013, 18:33

You could get some self righting gear if your a bit worried K. I wouldn't mind one meslf. methods above do work well though if your fit enough.

Self righting systems - Henshaw Inflatables Ltd

willk · 01 October 2013, 18:36

I'm not entirely sure if I'd even bother self righting a 5m RIB. I think I'd try to get onto the hull and raise whatever alert I could. In my case, that's VHF/PLB/torch. I think the time spent righting the RIB would be time wasted that the RNLI could better spend rescuing me and then sorting the RIB. Now, if you were with friends and wearing a drysuit, then sure, right the RIB for towing. Partial tube deflate and two boats should do it...

Pikey Dave · 01 October 2013, 19:36

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Originally Posted by kerny

It would be interesting to see if there are any techniques that could be used if you are unfortunate enough to end up in this situation.

Easy, in your case, park the car on the lawn, run a rope or two over the drive to the boat, fasten the ropes to the trailer & use the car to pull it upright

Why do you ask anyway, expecting some strong winds?

mick · 01 October 2013, 19:46

Maybe he has had a sink-hole appear on the drive and is worried it may tip in

Maximus · 01 October 2013, 19:50

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Maybe he has had a sink-hole appear on the drive and is worried it may tip in

Maybe... a Trench Mick!!!

m chappelow · 01 October 2013, 19:54

One big difference about Re righting a RIB compared to a same size SIB apart from the obvious weight factor is when re righting a sib after rigging a line the heaviest crew man should stand up in forward bow quarter with any other crew in weight order next to him Keep straight & lean back using any wind to help assist The sib even with a one peice floor such as a D class will start to twist over from the bow first slightly this puts a twist on the sponsons then at a given point the stern with the engine will follow .

kerny · 01 October 2013, 20:03

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Originally Posted by Pikey Dave

Easy, in your case, park the car on the lawn, run a rope or two over the drive to the boat, fasten the ropes to the trailer & use the car to pull it upright

Why do you ask anyway, expecting some strong winds?

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Maybe he has had a sink-hole appear on the drive and is worried it may tip in

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Maybe... a Trench Mick!!!

mick · 01 October 2013, 20:34

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typical council Waller always asleep

lakelandterrier · 01 October 2013, 22:17

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Originally Posted by willk

I'm not entirely sure if I'd even bother self righting a 5m RIB. I think I'd try to get onto the hull and raise whatever alert I could. In my case, that's VHF/PLB/torch. I think the time spent righting the RIB would be time wasted that the RNLI could better spend rescuing me and then sorting the RIB

+1

Bearing in mind the engine will be f**ked and the crew shocked - if not injured, I think I'd concentrate on getting everyone out of the water on to the hull & calling in an SOS before even considering trying to right it.

If in the surf - get ashore.

Nick Hearne · 02 October 2013, 23:14

I witnessed a small rib capsize on the bar in Salcombe, called it in to cost guard, who sent out inshore lifeboat. They did not attempt to right it just towed it in if it was going to be easy I recon they would have righted it first!