Humber vs Prestige

Atsang · 11 June 2020, 22:30

Hi guys,

Looking some advice.
Currently looking at buying a rib. I'm looking at a 5m Humber destroyer and a 6m Prestige.

Im looking at using the rib both across lough Neagh and on calm days trips to Port Patrick or the IOM.

Between the 2 ribs, which would you consider being the better buy? I know the larger the rib the more sea worthy, but I'm not sure on the quality of the prestige vs the Humber.

Any and all help would be greatful!

Thanks!

xpertski · 12 June 2020, 08:31

Don’t know about the prestige, but I’ve owned a Humber Ocean Pro for many years, currently renovating it. I would love to buy another in the future. Maybe a bit more commercial than some other makes but I just really like them, very sea worthy. Which Humber model are you considering?

treerat · 12 June 2020, 08:33

This tread might help - https://www.rib.net/forum/f8/prestige-ribs-9509.html

Atsang · 12 June 2020, 09:54

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Originally Posted by xpertski

Don’t know about the prestige, but I’ve owned a Humber Ocean Pro for many years, currently renovating it. I would love to buy another in the future. Maybe a bit more commercial than some other makes but I just really like them, very sea worthy. Which Humber model are you considering?

Currently looking at the 5m destroyer. Couldn't quite budget for the ocean Pro.

Thanks!

Atsang · 12 June 2020, 09:55

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Originally Posted by treerat

This tread might help - https://www.rib.net/forum/f8/prestige-ribs-9509.html

Thanks!

Poly · 12 June 2020, 22:58

If that thread is right and they are basically Ribeyes with a different badge (and that is still true when your potential boat was built) then your decision probably just got a bit harder! If it was a 5m humber v 6m ribeye it would be straightforward for the sort of use you want the longer boat wins, and whilst ribeye is not everyone here’s cup of tea, neither are numbers. If the actual boat is built to the finish you need and has the seat layout etc you want then it would be a simple decision, bigger wins.

The complication comes when your not quite a ribeye is the choice. Not because there is anything wrong with it but because the next buyer may treat it with the same suspicion you are. It’s probably a little bit like buying a SsangYong and saying it’s really a Mercedes.

Atsang · 12 June 2020, 23:18

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Originally Posted by Poly

If that thread is right and they are basically Ribeyes with a different badge (and that is still true when your potential boat was built) then your decision probably just got a bit harder! If it was a 5m humber v 6m ribeye it would be straightforward for the sort of use you want the longer boat wins, and whilst ribeye is not everyone here’s cup of tea, neither are numbers. If the actual boat is built to the finish you need and has the seat layout etc you want then it would be a simple decision, bigger wins.

The complication comes when your not quite a ribeye is the choice. Not because there is anything wrong with it but because the next buyer may treat it with the same suspicion you are. It’s probably a little bit like buying a SsangYong and saying it’s really a Mercedes.

See, this is exactly my thoughts, yes it could be potentially a ribeye, but when it's not at ribeye money, is it really a ribeye?
Again, I don't know the years where the 2 cross over.

On the other hand, a decent clean Humber destroyer will sell tomorrow (at the right money) as everyone know the name, new to the rib scene or not.

So am still stuck between a rock and a hard place. Only thing is, I'm not a great fan of the orange Humber tubes which is the most common colour.

And now the next spanner in the works is potentially a Valiant Vanguard 520. But then you come into the Hull design, will it take the sea? I'd have no concern if it were just inlad waterways. But I don't personally think the Hull is deep anough for a trip to Scotland and back, even on a calm day. Or am I being stupid?

beerbelly · 13 June 2020, 05:26

I had a valiant vanguard v570 and now have a 5.5 Humber destroyer .the valiant was a decent enough rib well put together good grp mouldings and fittings lots of storage and seating teak lookalike deck cracking thing for scooting along the coast beach hopping on nice days . but ultimately when it got a bit choppy it would slam at relatively low speeds. the Humber is a bit more basic but the hull design lets me carry a bit more speed in a choppy sea it feels more cushioned landing . don't get me wrong come off a big enough wave and it still hits the sea quite hard .but im finding cruising in conditions that would make the valiant hard work at 14-16 knotts I can do at 20 knots relatively easy.

Atsang · 13 June 2020, 13:30

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Originally Posted by beerbelly

I had a valiant vanguard v570 and now have a 5.5 Humber destroyer .the valiant was a decent enough rib well put together good grp mouldings and fittings lots of storage and seating teak lookalike deck cracking thing for scooting along the coast beach hopping on nice days . but ultimately when it got a bit choppy it would slam at relatively low speeds. the Humber is a bit more basic but the hull design lets me carry a bit more speed in a choppy sea it feels more cushioned landing . don't get me wrong come off a big enough wave and it still hits the sea quite hard .but im finding cruising in conditions that would make the valiant hard work at 14-16 knotts I can do at 20 knots relatively easy.

See, the valiant really does look the part. Just not fond of the orange tubed Humber ribs. So looking out for something different.

Thanks!

xpertski · 13 June 2020, 13:38

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Originally Posted by Atsang

See, the valiant really does look the part. Just not fond of the orange tubed Humber ribs. So looking out for something different.

Thanks!

In my opinion the valiant doesn’t have as good a hull as the Humber, could be wrong but the Valiant I would think has a medium V whereas the Humber has a deep V hull. The destroyer hull is very well respected!

Is it a second hand rib you are looking at? Humber do tubes that aren’t orange ...

So many RIBs in your size range I am sure you will find something that suits you [emoji106]

Atsang · 13 June 2020, 13:48

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Originally Posted by xpertski

In my opinion the valiant doesn’t have as good a hull as the Humber, could be wrong but the Valiant I would think has a medium V whereas the Humber has a deep V hull. The destroyer hull is very well respected!

Is it a second hand rib you are looking at? Humber do tubes that aren’t orange ...

So many RIBs in your size range I am sure you will find something that suits you [emoji106]

Yes, looking at 2nd hand, but the majority of Humber ribs seem to be orange, there are a few yellow and one blue I've seen, but hard to come by.
Yes, I think when you look at the valiant vs the Humber, the Humber does have a deeper v Hull.
The issue i am having at the minute, is any decent ribs at all are sold that day. None are sitting about. So you really have to be on ur game to find that right one and get onto it quick.

Pikey Dave · 13 June 2020, 14:26

Check the humber over carefully. Finish quality can vary enormously. Humber sell bare hulls for the owner to fit out at home or via a 3rd party. They also sell in-house finished boats which can be rough around the edges. I’d prefer a well finished hull from a 3rd party over a factory rush job.

Maximus · 13 June 2020, 20:04

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Originally Posted by Pikey Dave

Check the humber over carefully. Finish quality can vary enormously. Humber sell bare hulls for the owner to fit out at home or via a 3rd party. They also sell in-house finished boats which can be rough around the edges. I’d prefer a well finished hull from a 3rd party over a factory rush job.

Me too.....

goes for most makes!
The Earlyer Humbers built in house were decent pretty well built Utility Craft...and did the Job...then they went for volume.... budget pricing accordingly ...and corners were defiantly cut.