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23 January 2012, 13:57
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Hydraulic steering
Hi all, i've just fitted hydraulic steering today & I've got about 1inch play in the steering wheel is this right or should it be more solid , any advice plz
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23 January 2012, 15:09
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I have just fitted a Baystar setup on mine, it has virtually no play at all. Have you bled the system fully? Any air in the system will give you play.
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23 January 2012, 15:35
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Originally Posted by hadd
Hi all, i've just fitted hydraulic steering today & I've got about 1inch play in the steering wheel is this right or should it be more solid , any advice plz
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What make of hydraulics have you used, it makes a difference!
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23 January 2012, 16:09
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My Seastar has about 3/4 inch play. Always has.
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23 January 2012, 17:02
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There is always a little bit of play...
What I found is a good idea is use it for a few days then bleed it again with nice clear fluid. the bleeding process does tend to leave the fluid a bit aerated first time round...
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23 January 2012, 17:12
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There is always a little bit of play...
What I found is a good idea is use it for a few days then bleed it again with nice clear fluid. the bleeding process does tend to leave the fluid a bit aerated first time round...
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I found a small leak on the helm pump that's sorted now & then bled the system again still got a little play about 3/4in, i done all checks & all seems fine ,just need to get out on it now & test it thank
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23 January 2012, 18:02
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Andy, where's the play? If you turn the steering wheel side to side, there will be a small amount of play as the non-return valves operate. If you get hold of the engine & try to move it side to side there shouldn't be any movement on the ram, there will be a slight amount in the engine mounts but the ram shouldn't move.
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23 January 2012, 18:11
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Originally Posted by Pikey Dave
Andy, where's the play? If you turn the steering wheel side to side, there will be a small amount of play as the non-return valves operate. If you get hold of the engine & try to move it side to side there shouldn't be any movement on the ram, there will be a slight amount in the engine mounts but the ram shouldn't move.
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Just in the steering wheel side to side about 3/4in that's all, i bled the system again & there,s no air in it
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23 January 2012, 18:55
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hadd
Just in the steering wheel side to side about 3/4in that's all, i bled the system again & there,s no air in it
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Sounds ok to me
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06 February 2012, 23:20
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Originally Posted by hadd
Just in the steering wheel side to side about 3/4in that's all, i bled the system again & there,s no air in it
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there will be a slight amount of play when steering back and fourth, this is just you opening/closing valves to direct fluid to the right area...
3/4" is not too far off at all...
the main thing is that when you are turning are you getting good response?
thanks
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07 February 2012, 13:22
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Originally Posted by SeaStar Steering
there will be a slight amount of play when steering back and fourth, this is just you opening/closing valves to direct fluid to the right area...
3/4" is not too far off at all...
the main thing is that when you are turning are you getting good response?
thanks
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. Thanks Marc, the problems sorted & I'm getting a good response on the turning now cheers
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07 February 2012, 20:58
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The importance of maintaining your hydraulic steering is highlighted (sadly) in this report report
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19 February 2012, 17:40
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Well, went out for the first time this year yesterday after fitting mr jingles with hydraulic steering can't believe how much easy it is to steer well worth the money & easy to fit as well saved my self a few ££££££££
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19 February 2012, 18:33
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Originally Posted by hadd
Well, went out for the first time this year yesterday after fitting mr jingles with hydraulic steering can't believe how much easy it is to steer well worth the money & easy to fit as well saved my self a few ££££££££
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Well done mate bet you can feel the difference now, you needed arms like Tarzan to turn to port when i had go last year well worth it All you need to do now is figure out how to use a Gopro
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19 February 2012, 22:51
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Well done mate bet you can feel the difference now, you needed arms like Tarzan to turn to port when i had go last year well worth it All you need to do now is figure out how to use a Gopro
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Yeah, glad i had it done now Tony it was only when i went on Domino, it was so easy to steer , i had to have it done it's a lot safer as well , & for go pro i'm getting there next video will be in march
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Just wanted to share, if someone is shopping for a Baystar. I ordered mine from here:
Steering Controls, Engine items in baystar store on eBay!
Price delivered was 565 USD, that was the cheapest i found. On top of that is EU VAT and duty, but still cheaper than locally(here). Everything went smooth, no complains. Still in the box but hoping for a smooth installation later in the spring.
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