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19 August 2010, 08:00
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Country: UK - England
Town: Portland, Dorset
Make: Ribcraft
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I know I shouldn't be buying new toys but.....
http://www.boatsandoutboards.co.uk/view/PAA11610
Stumbled across this ad which looks like quite a good deal, what does anyone think ? What questions would you ask the seller ? Also any experience of OMC's, tried searching it on here and all I can find is people looking for new props rather than actual reviews?
Reasons for waning to upgrade are - my other half is quite sociable so having 6 comfy seats rather than 2 would mean we could actually invite friends out, which means we'd use it a lot more; and hopefully being 10 years newer might mean things work a bit better, I don't think I've yet had a trip where there hasn't been something that could really do with being looked at. I'm not getting anywhere fast with learning how to do stuff myself and I'm starting to get a bit annoyed with it all.
I am a bit concerned about how much the whole lot weighs but I'm going to ask that question in the right place as soon as I've found & scanned the relevant page in my car handbook.
Thanks all !
xS
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19 August 2010, 08:15
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Country: UK - England
Town: Mighty Penryn
Boat name: Little Joe.
Make: Avon Searider
Length: 4m +
Engine: Honda BF50
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Phew! When I read the headline, I thought 'Miss Mucky' is at it again.
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19 August 2010, 08:43
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Country: UK - England
Town: Bursledon
Boat name: Mustard
Make: Ribeye 785
Length: 7m +
Engine: Yamaha 200/Merc 6
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We had a Ribcraft 585. It was a superb sea boat and was well engineered and built. We had 150 on it, also OMC, a Ficht, and it flew.
Go for it!
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19 August 2010, 09:14
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Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Aberdeenshire
Boat name: Sula
Make: Ribcraft 4.8m
Length: 4m +
Engine: Tohatsu 70hp + aux
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If you want another 585 as a comparison. You could remove the s/s tank holder and add extra jockeys. Plenty power on tap. http://www.findafishingboat.com/detail.php?aid=25931
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19 August 2010, 09:34
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Country: UK - England
Town: Wild West
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The RC 585 is a realy good hull,and would certainly open up alot of options! Ribcraft are always worth a call too,they often get offered px's, used Ribs ect, which can be good value[Got mine that way,with only 40 hrs on her]...speak to Dorian whatever you decide on, the best of luck!
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19 August 2010, 16:36
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Country: UK - England
Town: The wilds of Wiltshire
Boat name: Dominator
Make: SR5.4
Length: 7m +
Engine: Yam 85
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That's a good hull, but I reckon it's somewhat overpriced with that lump on it.
Or to put it another way, you might get £1500 for the engine if you're very very lucky. Is the rest of the package worth £8500?
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19 August 2010, 18:26
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Country: UK - England
Town: Mighty Penryn
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That's not a very sociable seating arrangement for a boat to take friends out on.
If you've decided on an upgrade, I'd advise holding tight. There will be more to choose from over the winter at the right money.
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19 August 2010, 18:30
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Town: Portland, Dorset
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Hmm thats sort of the question... probably would want to change the engine fairly soon - well, next year. He said OMC is the military arm of Johnson/Evinrude, they just 'soup them up a bit and paint them green'.
It hasn't been used for 2 years (but has been kept under cover, and was serviced & winterised after last use) but he would check it runs and look into getting it serviced prior to sale. It's not perfect (I was hoping for a pretty one next - still looks a bit too Rescue-y!), might go and have a look though, dunno.
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19 August 2010, 18:31
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Oh - just seen Mollers reply - that's probably a sensible idea
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19 August 2010, 23:18
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Country: UK - Wales
Town: West Wales
Make: Vipermax 5.8, SR4.7
Length: 5m +
Engine: 150 Opti, F50EFi
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaz
He said OMC is the military arm of Johnson/Evinrude, they just 'soup them up a bit and paint them green'.
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OMC= Outboard Motor Corporation, which was the company that owned the Johnson & Evinrood brands. OMC were bought out by Bombardier, then later traded under the BRP banner, still using the names Evinrood & Johnson for their outboards.
The 'paint them green' bit was right.
AFAIK, there was no soup involved.
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20 August 2010, 09:32
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Country: UK - England
Town: Mighty Penryn
Boat name: Little Joe.
Make: Avon Searider
Length: 4m +
Engine: Honda BF50
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Originally Posted by Downhilldai
The 'paint them green' bit was right.
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Does sound as if the guy was spouting a little poop.
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20 August 2010, 10:40
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Maximus
The RC 585 is a realy good hull,and would certainly open up alot of options! Ribcraft are always worth a call too,they often get offered px's, used Ribs ect, which can be good value[Got mine that way,with only 40 hrs on her]...speak to Dorian whatever you decide on, the best of luck!
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Have you had many hours experience on a 585? Yours is a 545 isn't it?
Jim
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20 August 2010, 16:12
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bedajim
Matt
Have you had many hours experience on a 585? Yours is a 545 isn't it?
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Been on a few of 585's,one in a' Force 6' off Plymouth sound,very impressed, although I would suggest 130-150 horses! My' 545' [1''narrower if memeorey serves] has side by side jockeys which I WOULD recomend ......is also a realy good hull!
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20 August 2010, 19:06
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Having spent considerable time cruising with and helming a Ribcraft 585 and a little less time helming a 5.8 Vipermax, I personally prefer the handling chracteristics of the Vipermax. (No brand loyalty bollox .)
IMO, the 585 is prone to being light in the bow, they'll become bouncy in a head sea, trimming down helps but things get wet and stuffy. A VM 5.8 handles very much like a 6.5 with 700mm knocked off of it.
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20 August 2010, 19:37
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Make: Vipermax 5.8, SR4.7
Length: 5m +
Engine: 150 Opti, F50EFi
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mollers
A VM 5.8 handles very much like a 6.5 with 700mm knocked off of it.
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....and looks very much like one too
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20 August 2010, 21:39
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Country: UK - N Ireland
Boat name: *
Make: replacement soon!
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ribcraft 5.85
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20 August 2010, 21:43
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Aye, traded in for a real RIB...
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20 August 2010, 21:52
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Girvan & Tayvallich
Boat name: Breawatch
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: Mercury 150 F/stroke
MMSI: ex directory!!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by willk
Aye, traded in for a real RIB...
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Jeesus your commission must be mounting theses days!!
J
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20 August 2010, 21:54
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Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Girvan & Tayvallich
Boat name: Breawatch
Make: Ribcraft
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Engine: Mercury 150 F/stroke
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I have never know my RC 585 to be 'light in the bow' or 'bouncy' and she handles some quite rough stuff in the west of scotland. In general they are considered one of the better 'sea' boats even nearly as good as (que Willk) the Redbays!!
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20 August 2010, 21:56
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jambo
Jeesus your commission must be mounting theses days!!
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