I think you can go too Big - Page 4

GuyC · 20 March 2021, 10:03

They could just have been a styling feature to differentiate them from other SIB's. The pro's and con's probably outweigh each other and getting rid of them reduced the unit cost without, I suspect, reducing the price.

Limecc · 20 March 2021, 10:32

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Originally Posted by chipko

Fully understand that, with the same motor and load, a longer sib will plane earlier and have more speed than a shorter one.

Just feel the negligible on water benefit of the extended floor tabs are far outweighed by the problems they create.

Fair enough. If they are hated then they become a sales liability even if they have performance benefits.

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Originally Posted by GuyC

They could just have been a styling feature to differentiate them from other SIB's.

We'll never know that for sure. Little trim tabs on larger boats can have a good effect. This is known.

Fenlander · 20 March 2021, 10:46

>>>Someone decided they were of benefit and after prototype trials decided to include them in the original design, or save money and bow to convention as is the case now

I'm more with Guy... at the back of a fag packet design meeting in China someone said this would look cool and it can be promoted as a benefit... and then the customers spent years paying for that decision in expensive wobbly transom legs. I would be amazed if they built a tabbed/non-tabbed prototype and actually sea trialled to prove any benefit at all.

Limecc · 20 March 2021, 10:55

Made in China designed in Japan.

Maximus · 20 March 2021, 11:07

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Made in China designed in Japan.

Made in BRITAIN designed (and used) by (and for) you're imagination! ...is MY preference!
.....Comes in ALL sizes

Fender · 20 March 2021, 12:46

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Originally Posted by Maximus

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Made in BRITAIN designed (and used) by (and for) you're imagination! ...is MY preference!
.....Comes in ALL sizes

A lot to be said for the above

I mistakenly purchased two items from china last year widely advertised on face-ache ( fortunately only a few hundred pounds ) but both scams, the items were nothing like advertised and a complete rip-off, eventfully got most of my money back after 6 months from pay-pal, that was after many hours on the phone and numerous emails - the sellers probably have a high percentage of sales where the purchaser can't be bothered to fight for their money back - nice!
Appreciate the above has nothing to do with boats, however, to me it says it all about a certain country's limited ethics - I'm not the smarted guy in the room (

) but lesson learnt

Fenlander · 20 March 2021, 12:53

Anyway whatever the tab plus/minus hope Spidermatt's T38 proves just what he wants. The cost of those special transom wheels was probably the only detractor for them being the goto easy to set up value SIB... hope this new model is well made and fully regains the crown.

Pikey Dave · 20 March 2021, 14:15

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Originally Posted by Fender

A lot to be said for the above

I mistakenly purchased two items from china last year widely advertised on face-ache ( fortunately only a few hundred pounds ) but both scams, the items were nothing like advertised and a complete rip-off, eventfully got most of my money back after 6 months from pay-pal, that was after many hours on the phone and numerous emails - the sellers probably have a high percentage of sales where the purchaser can't be bothered to fight for their money back - nice!
Appreciate the above has nothing to do with boats, however, to me it says it all about a certain country's limited ethics - I'm not the smarted guy in the room (

) but lesson learnt

I was similarly caught out by a tempting FB “sponsored” advert. Luckily it was only a few quid. I’ll never buy anything from a Dropshipping ad again. FB marketplace on the other hand is now my “goto” for buying & selling, rather than eBay.

Maximus · 20 March 2021, 16:58

CHINA is peddling A LOT more dangerous stuff!
...... than a few sub standard cheap products for our consumption!

"Caveat Emptor!"

GuyC · 20 March 2021, 19:31

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Originally Posted by Pikey Dave

I was similarly caught out by a tempting FB “sponsored” advert. Luckily it was only a few quid. I’ll never buy anything from a Dropshipping ad again. FB marketplace on the other hand is now my “goto” for buying & selling, rather than eBay.

#metoo - Paypal were very good and gave me my money back. With hindsight, it was too good to be true.

I'm always nervous that my 80+ year old parents won't be so lucky.

Apologies for the thread creep.

davej · 22 March 2021, 17:10

Just seeing the gurnard and his trips has got me excited about my planned dive trip to Oban in June, that is if Nicola gives us permission!

Hopefully we can get out diving every day in our 6 m tornado. I do have this wish to get round to see Fingals cave, it’s a long trip from Oban with plenty of fuel, we just need the weather. Who’s done it in a rib from Oban?

The Gurnard · 22 March 2021, 17:40

Not done it in a RIB davej but myself , Jeffstevens, and Highland Haggis have done it from Oban in SIBS. I tried to get there by 2.75m F Rib a couple years ago but it was too rough that day. But it is very possible in such a small boat

Im hoping to do it again very soon, as if all goes to plan, Im moving house next weekend to live in the Oban area so I can keep boating during lockdowns. Enjoy your trip its a great area and RIBS often go right round Mull from Oban (calling at Fingals Cave) in one day. Its around 130 mile trip if I remember correct.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_0LlRU6130

Pikey Dave · 22 March 2021, 18:36

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Originally Posted by davej

Just seeing the gurnard and his trips has got me excited about my planned dive trip to Oban in June, that is if Nicola gives us permission!

Hopefully we can get out diving every day in our 6 m tornado. I do have this wish to get round to see Fingals cave, it’s a long trip from Oban with plenty of fuel, we just need the weather. Who’s done it in a rib from Oban?

Yup, done it. Iona/Staffa/Tobermory in the day from Puffin.

jeffstevens763@g · 22 March 2021, 19:27

That was a great trip mind didn’t go in the cave my engine wouldn’t tickover

Dan Gurney · 22 March 2021, 20:05

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Originally Posted by Pikey Dave

Yup, done it. Iona/Staffa/Tobermory in the day from Puffin.

Don't skip the Treshnish Isles! Lovely wee anchorage for a lunch/coffee stop. [emoji108]

matt h · 22 March 2021, 21:20

Go small think big!

Maximus · 22 March 2021, 22:47

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Originally Posted by matt h

Go small think big!

Go Big....Think Bigger!

Maximus · 22 March 2021, 22:51

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Originally Posted by matt h

Go small think big!

Go Big....Think Bigger!

At the end of the day IMO ....It's all about the location ....and the company....regardless of size

....They are all small when it's white wet and wild!

davej · 23 March 2021, 18:20

Bril bit of film, lovely.

We just need to cross everything for some decent weather, last September we had one day of great weather when we dived the Melton in loch buie, it was a magic day, unfortunately for the rest of the week we struggled but got our most days and did some great diving including up in the sound of mull. We will be there 12 to 19 June and base our rib in dunstaffage marine, with maybe the odd start from puffin divers to top the tank off.

Last year we saw, eagles, dolphins and seals, no wild haggis. Super place can’t wait to get there.