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19 May 2015, 23:25
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ICC Renewal.
Mine has just expired although I have never needed it.
Can this be renewed as and when required... or is it a case of doing your PB2 again. I have checked the RIBnet archives and I can't find an answer to this.
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20 May 2015, 01:00
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Country: UK - England
Town: Southampton
Boat name: 'Mojo'
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Length: 4m +
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Just a photo copy of your PB2 certificate is all that RYA required off me.
You can either join the RYA and get your ICC for free
Or
Pay a little less and just apply for your ICC without joining RYA.
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20 May 2015, 09:56
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So if you let it laps for say 2 or 3 years all you need to do is reapply by sending your existing p2 ticket off to RYA without having to redo p2 again.
So basically your p2 certificate lasts for a lifetime I take it.
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20 May 2015, 10:21
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Yup👍
.....sh1t happens.......
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20 May 2015, 10:26
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Yup.
I believe Rya membership is annual but ICC is every 5yrs.?
So I've signed up to RYA via a £5 off coupon I had (think I had it from when I completed Day Skipper Theory)
There are also a couple of benefits I may used being a RYA member.
Prob won't join next year but do the whole process again in 5yrs when ICC runs out.?
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20 May 2015, 10:54
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That's clear now...I had it in my head for some reason that if you didn't renew your ICC licence and then for whatever reason you wanted your ICC licence again that you would have to go through the whole process of doing your PB2 again.
When I completed my course I sent everything off together at one go so that's probably the reason I thought this.
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21 May 2015, 12:22
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Has anyone any experience of upgrading their ICC? I got mine with my PB2, which means it's valid up to 10m LOA, now I've done my Advanced I'm eligible for one up to 24m. It is a case of sending in another application?
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21 May 2015, 16:08
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I wasn't aware that there were restrictions sub-24m. I thought that ICC's came in one flavour, didn't know there were different categories . Mines up to 24m
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21 May 2015, 16:47
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Originally Posted by markmullen
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Just dug my ICC out & it doesn't mention length at all, not even 24m, I must have confused that with the Coastal Skipper Cert.
.....sh1t happens.......
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21 May 2015, 18:39
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Town: swanwick/hamble
Boat name: stormchaser
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Length: 8m +
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If they are valid for 5 years mine run out 15 years ago LOL
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21 May 2015, 19:20
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Quote:
Originally Posted by biffer
If they are valid for 5 years mine run out 15 years ago LOL
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Does that mean you're no longer competent then
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22 May 2015, 07:26
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It's a sign of the times Dave, got a bit of paper makes them professional, we were having this talk last night, someone wanted my CV, I told him I've never done one in my life, in my day it was give us a go and if you don't like what I do, I'll go, we were talking about foreign workers, which is funny cause I'm working in France, but I argued that doctors should take there exams in the country they are working in.
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22 May 2015, 07:56
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ICC used to be upto 24m by default and if you have this you will retain grand father rights on renewal but 5+ yrs ago (could be 10+??) there was a 10m category introduced for power and sail and the PB2 (quite correctly) only authorises upto 10m, a coastal skipper or similar is needed now for 10-24m authority.
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22 May 2015, 09:13
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Quote:
Originally Posted by biffer
It's a sign of the times Dave, got a bit of paper makes them professional, we were having this talk last night, someone wanted my CV, I told him I've never done one in my life, in my day it was give us a go and if you don't like what I do, I'll go, we were talking about foreign workers, which is funny cause I'm working in France, but I argued that doctors should take there exams in the country they are working in.
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Yup I know exactly where you're coming from. I have a pocket full of cards for work that proves my competency in various areas. Strangely, I can be competent one day, but the day after the card expires I'm classed as a danger to all and sundry. Funnily, all I have to do to prove that I'm still competent is send a new photo & shell out £30 quid & suddenly I'm competent again.
If the qualifications you need to obtain an ICC last a lifetime, why doesn't the ICC? or are we back to the photo & £50 again?
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22 May 2015, 18:02
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pikey Dave
If the qualifications you need to obtain an ICC last a lifetime, why doesn't the ICC? or are we back to the photo & £50 again?
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Exactly my thoughts..... although updating a photograph for a nominal fee every 10 years would be a good idea
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