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29 January 2010, 10:02
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Country: Other
Town: Stanley, Falkland Is
Boat name: Seawolf
Make: Osprey Vipermax 5.8
Length: 5m +
Engine: Etec 150
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If I wanted a new RIB....
A situation has appeared whereby I might be able to sell my RIB for a decent price, I hadn't been planning to so I hadn't really thought about replacements but I need to think about it fairly quickly to make a decision on whether it is worthwhile or not.
So, what should I have on the shortlist? I have a Destroyer at the moment and am generally happy with the size vs performance as I can launch and recover it single handed which is essential. Looking 5.5m to 6.0m size, more likely the lower end to keep the price and running costs down.
Shortlist at the moment consists of Destroyer/Ocean Pro, Vipermax and maybe XS, anything else that is worth looking at? Good value is essential (if it is too expensive I couldn't do it so while I'd love a Redbay with twins, or that Parker 630 with a cabin on, reality is I probably can't afford it unless they cost a lot less than I think).
Suggestions please
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29 January 2010, 10:37
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Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Girvan & Tayvallich
Boat name: Breawatch
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: Mercury 150 F/stroke
MMSI: ex directory!!
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Stephen you have mentioned all the usual suspects. If you are happy with your Humber then why not stay with them? Being a poud Ribcraft owner I wonder why you have not mentioned them as they are among the best!!
Billy
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29 January 2010, 10:52
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Mighty Penryn
Boat name: Little Joe.
Make: Avon Searider
Length: 4m +
Engine: Honda BF50
Join Date: Aug 2005
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How important is a road legal trailer to you? If the answer is 'Not very', then Bedajim's Vmax could be a very, very good buy.
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29 January 2010, 11:32
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Country: UK - Wales
Town: West Wales
Make: Vipermax 5.8, SR4.7
Length: 5m +
Engine: 150 Opti, F50EFi
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mollers
How important is a road legal trailer to you? If the answer is 'Not very', then Bedajim's Vmax could be a very, very good buy.
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Or DHD's
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29 January 2010, 11:59
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Country: UK - Scotland
Boat name: Wildheart
Make: Humber/Delta Seasafe
Length: 5m +
Engine: Merc 60 Clamshell
MMSI: 235068449
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I assume shipping halfway round the world is part of this equation? - In which case does overall weight come into play?
Also, bearing in mind your location, would twin 50 / 60s be appropriate?
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29 January 2010, 12:26
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Country: Other
Town: Stanley, Falkland Is
Boat name: Seawolf
Make: Osprey Vipermax 5.8
Length: 5m +
Engine: Etec 150
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Weight is not an issue, cubic measurement is the killer as the freight is likely to be £4000 or so for a RIB on a trailer.
Trailer .... erm .... needs to be as road legal as my trailer is but I suppose it needs to be able to get to Marchwood docks somehow and then do 40 miles from the arriving port here to 'home'. Home to wetness and back again is only a couple of miles at low speed so after the initial trip, if it has wheels and a hook it will do
Ribcraft I think are rather more expensive? but I will have a look at their site on the weekend.
Are the above mentioned Vmaxes advertised on here?
I think I would prefer a single plus aux as the main potential hazard here is rope/net discarded from fishing vessels and ending up with two engines tied together isn't much help
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29 January 2010, 13:05
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Country: UK - England
Town: Leicester
Boat name: Vixen
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 6m +
Engine: Suzuki OB 175
MMSI: 235071839
Join Date: Jun 2004
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It would be worth looking closely at say a humber quote and similar ribcraft quote, we were surprised at how similar they were when other items were included on Humber quote thus making what looked a lot cheaper even itself out so that Ribcraft and Humber were similar price for similar spec. Ribcraft are doing more package/stock boats now.
Interms of build quality Ribcrafts is excellent, the steel work especially.
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29 January 2010, 14:03
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Country: UK - England
Town: Southampton
Boat name: Hissing Sid
Make: Ross Smith Cobra
Length: 6m +
Engine: 200HP Optimax
MMSI: 235038046
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mollers
How important is a road legal trailer to you? If the answer is 'Not very', then Bedajim's Vmax could be a very, very good buy.
or DHD's
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Didn't know these boats were for sale???
In the market for a new one myself soon..
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29 January 2010, 14:47
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RIBnet admin team
Country: Ireland
Length: 4m +
Join Date: Feb 2008
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jizm
Didn't know these boats were for sale???
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I think perhaps all boats are for sale, if the price is right...
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29 January 2010, 14:53
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Mighty Penryn
Boat name: Little Joe.
Make: Avon Searider
Length: 4m +
Engine: Honda BF50
Join Date: Aug 2005
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Downhilldai
Or DHD's
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Eh?
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29 January 2010, 15:27
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Member
Country: UK - Wales
Town: West Wales
Make: Vipermax 5.8, SR4.7
Length: 5m +
Engine: 150 Opti, F50EFi
Join Date: Sep 2005
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mollers
Eh?
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Got a SR4.7 now
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29 January 2010, 16:20
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Country: UK - Scotland
Boat name: imposter
Make: FunYak
Length: 3m +
Engine: Tohatsu 30HP
MMSI: 235089819
Join Date: Sep 2005
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So have you decided against a giant wheely bin then?
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Originally Posted by BogMonster
I was looking seriously at a 570 or maybe a 600, though I prefer the "RIB look" of the 570, but what may eventually sway it is the shelter provided by the 600 Sport cabin, not to be underestimated in these waters! But for the moment the old Humbug will soldier on hopefully with fewer problems than I have had with it
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29 January 2010, 18:45
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Country: Other
Town: Stanley, Falkland Is
Boat name: Seawolf
Make: Osprey Vipermax 5.8
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Not necessarily
I just know what I want if I did go down that route!
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29 January 2010, 19:14
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Country: UK - England
Town: Southampton
Boat name: Hissing Sid
Make: Ross Smith Cobra
Length: 6m +
Engine: 200HP Optimax
MMSI: 235038046
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Quote:
Originally Posted by willk
I think perhaps all boats are for sale, if the price is right...
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Indeed, but are they?
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29 January 2010, 21:00
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Glasgow
Boat name: stramash
Make: Tornado
Length: 5m +
Engine: Etec 90
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 5,090
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Downhilldai
Or DHD's
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Or my 5.7 Valliant .. with the large sponsons is so easy to launch in shallow water single handedly
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07 February 2010, 01:21
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Town: Stanley, Falkland Is
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OK there are a few options on the table now, some second hand and some new. Nothing ruled out yet, and I do love Vipermaxes
Of the new options, I have some very interesting quotes from Humber and Ribcraft. XS has been ruled out because, well, if the sums stack up to mean I have that much money it will cover the Ribcraft 585 or one of the Vmaxes.
Looking specifically at the Humber option (because it's the best value new one) - in practical seaworthiness terms is there a lot of difference between the 5.5m and the 5.8m Destroyers? Strikes me that it's only a foot of boat so I wonder how much difference there is in choppy F4-F5 type conditions. Obviously the 5.8 will be better but how much?
I know the general logic says buy the biggest boat you can afford but the counter argument is that one of the things that controls the amount of ribbing I do is the operating cost, and so a smaller and cheaper to operate boat would probably mean I used it more and enjoyed it more, plus it would be easier to handle and easier to fit under cover if I needed to work on it. If there was a 5% difference in comfort I could live with it, if it was 25% I probably couldn't.
Any thoughts from those who might have tried both sizes please?
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07 February 2010, 20:27
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Country: UK - England
Town: New Milton
Boat name: Jianna
Make: Osprey
Length: 6m +
Engine: 200 E-TEC
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Once bitten................
Quote:
Originally Posted by BogMonster
Looking specifically at the Humber option
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WHAT??!! You of all people I suppose it's a free world
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07 February 2010, 21:39
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Town: Stanley, Falkland Is
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Quote:
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WHAT??!! You of all people I suppose it's a free world
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Price, old chap, simple as that. The other bits of the "how much money do I need" equation are not yet settled but the quote I got from Humber was excellent value!
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08 February 2010, 20:35
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Country: UK - England
Town: Gloucestershire
Boat name: Osprey
Make: Osprey Vipermax
Length: 5m +
Engine: E-tec 300 G2
MMSI: TBC
Join Date: Dec 2006
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Downhilldai
Or DHD's
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What's next then?
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08 February 2010, 22:46
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Member
Country: UK - Wales
Town: West Wales
Make: Vipermax 5.8, SR4.7
Length: 5m +
Engine: 150 Opti, F50EFi
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris
What's next then?
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SR4.7
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