If only they made a ...

[Manos]

Originally Posted by ScottyDog

The only people doing disc brakes on boat trailers are Rapide who are now owned by Dixon Bate (as far as I know)

...anmd also if you buy a TALON trailer made in South Africa

[Scary Des]

Originally Posted by Manos

There are and are made in South Africa and also a more simple version in the UK. I have both and if you want any photos will gladly take a few. Sorry Des

Interesting, who is the UK supplier
Des

[Manos]

Originally Posted by Scary Des

Interesting, who is the UK supplier
Des

If you mean the ladders and/or the trailers try me
Trailers availiable after Nov 2004. Ladders after I get back in Oct.

[ScottyDog]

I got a quote a couple of weeks ago and they said it would be about £240 extra for the disc brake option, however it seems as though this is still cable operated so perhaps Nirvana is not yet ours. I have a Rapide brochure which I am sure is in PDF format on the site somewhere.

[philip]

Originally Posted by Scary Des

Yes they are owned by Dixon Bates but there website doesn’t make reference to disc brakes. Des

Des,

The website doesn't have any info but their ads in the mags such as rib international & practical goat owner refer to them.

ScottyDog ,

I would really like a way to modify my stainless A-Frame so that I can quickly and easilly hinge part of it so it goes through my garage door. Don't want to drill any more holes in the hull or have to get any welding done - just cut with a hacksaw where I want the hinge ? Lost of stuff about for wimpy bimini's etc .

Cheers

Phil

[Scary Des]

Originally Posted by Manos

If you mean the ladders and/or the trailers try me
Trailers availiable after Nov 2004. Ladders after I get back in Oct.

Manos
Is this a Trade post, only joking. Can you tell me more about the trailers?
Des

[ScottyDog]

Originally Posted by philip

I would really like a way to modify my stainless A-Frame so that I can quickly and easilly hinge part of it so it goes through my garage door.

I feel it would be necessary to have reinforced ends on the cut part of the A frame as, being tubular, it has little scope for a hinge without beefing it up. Are there cables running up or in it ? There would be enough slack, I am sure, but it may make things fun when sawing through the tube. Is it single or double ? How far down does it need to hinge ?

Why do you mention the biminis ? Does this affect your plans for the A frame ?

[Manos]

Des we have also a trade subscription but I prefer to use the Manos thing.
Trailers are made from galvanised steal. They are very durable. Have one since 2002 been in and out of the sea NO CORROSION what so ever any where!! However, I wash it with fresh water every time after I put it in. This trailer is without brakes.
In fact all the trailers I've got are without brakes since the max weight on the boats (the 700RSR is just 750-850kgs and the the 640SRs are a lot less than that so no need).
To add brakes (even to those is simple enough I was told).
The calippers work with SS rods? and they do not rust. However you need to have them properly grased between the connections.
Is difficult to explain but they are not cables. Is better if you see one rather than me explaining. Is quite difficult you understand.

[Manos]

Originally Posted by philip

I would really like a way to modify my stainless A-Frame so that I can quickly and easilly hinge part of it so it goes through my garage door.

Phil there are A-frames in the market that screw on and off. I use to have one on my Gemini but also Michael the Bat has one of them I think. I will see him tomorrow when we will go for the weekend to visit a few of the Aegean Islands and take a few shots to show you

[Scary Des]

Originally Posted by Manos

................................Is quite difficult you understand.

I do understand before cables came along all trailer brakes were rod operated and although they need careful setting up and are perhaps more vulnerable to some types of damage they are a far better system. I'm Intrigued are you importing these brakes? Des

[philip]

Originally Posted by ScottyDog

I feel it would be necessary to have reinforced ends on the cut part of the A frame as, being tubular, it has little scope for a hinge without beefing it up.

Agree

Originally Posted by ScottyDog

Are there cables running up or in it ? There would be enough slack, I am sure, but it may make things fun when sawing through the tube.

There were cables running up the back tube but I have had to remove the whole lot to get it throught the garage.

Originally Posted by ScottyDog

Is it single or double ? How far down does it need to hinge ?.

Double i'll post a picky . between 90 and 180 degs - I want to fit a VHF aerial

Originally Posted by ScottyDog

Why do you mention the biminis ? Does this affect your plans for the A frame ?

Nope - just thats the only sort of diy stuff I've seen.

Oh and Ideally I would like it to be a hidden hinge - just for asthetic reasons.

Cheers

Phil

[Manos]

Originally Posted by Scary Des

I'm Intrigued are you importing these brakes? Des

Sorry just the trailers with or without brakes

[ScottyDog]

I think the hinging would have to be fitted to one half of the A frame and the other half would have to have some sort of spigot fitting to relocate it when righting the frame again. There will ultimately be cable for the navlight and coax for the VHF, but this should not cause a problem. As for not wishing to weld, drill etc I fear it would not be possible to make a suitably strong assembly without the aforementioned reinforcements. Cabling could be split with IP sealed connectors and the four pieces of tubing could be cut and fitted with 2 pairs of interlocking ferrules/pegs and secured with a pip pin or similar, even a split pin.

If there seems to be interest in demountable sections for A frames it would be quite possible for me to knock up insertable ferrules that could be used to mate the two halves. Different internal diameters would dictate several dimensions would have to be turned. It might be a good method for introducing carriers for poly bottles and other attachments.

I shall ponder some more.

[philip]

Originally Posted by ScottyDog

I think the hinging would have to be fitted to one half of the A frame and the other half would have to have some sort of spigot fitting to relocate it when righting the frame again.

As for not wishing to weld, drill etc I fear it would not be possible to make a suitably strong assembly without the aforementioned reinforcements.

I shall ponder some more.

Very happy too have it hinged at the back where the cable runs.

Don't mind drilling /cutting prefer not to have to weld.

Look forward to the results of your pondering.

Cheers

Phil

[slimtim]

Scotty Dog,

You got PM!

Cheers

Tim

[timboli]

Originally Posted by geoff

How about a set of trailer wheels where the brakes will still work after one season's use. Having just replaced the axle of my trailer after only four years, the inside of the wheel drums was brown mush, even though it was regularly serviced. It can't be right to continually dunk a load of steel and iron into salt water and then drive on it and expect it to continue working.
Rapide are offering disc brakes (maybe this is the answer).
And dont get me started on brake cables!!

How about a piggy back trailer for ribs,the piggy back part would only be immersed in water and designed with bunks and docking arms.
The brakes would never get wet,the main part of the trailer to stop just short of the water,so no problems with deteriorating brakes through immersion in salt water.
The whole set up to be quite low height wise perhaps so the bottom of the rib hull is only inches above the bottom of the wheels on the piggy back and the piggy back to be securely fixed for transit.
The piggy back could be lower at the front so that the piggy back provides a level platform for the rib to float onto.
Starter for ten anyway.

[Matt Riley]

Are you talking about a sort of 'combi' trailer, like they use for sailing dinghies, with a road base and a seperate launching trolley? I used an old dell quay dory once with this arrangement- it worked quite well, the only problems being with the tyres - it is hard to find ones to support the weight of even a small RIB/ powerboat, and the bit where you have to get the trolley aligned with the base so that it runs onto the base freely.

If you want to design one it might be a good idea to look at some of the ones for larger sailing dinghies as an example.

Good luck!

Matt

[Cookee]

Originally Posted by Manos

In fact all the trailers I've got are without brakes since the max weight on the boats (the 700RSR is just 750-850kgs and the the 640SRs are a lot less than that so no need).

Don't forget the laws are different in the UK compared to Greece - as I understand it the max permissable gross weight (boat and trailer combined) is 750 KG - and then there is the issue of whether the tow vehicle is heavy enough!

[Manos]

I thought that it was the same for all of Europe Cookee and the towing weight depends on the weight (size I suppose) of the trowing vehicle and a vehicle provided its weight permits it can tow up to 3tonnes. May be the UK is different I suppose ............. still driving on the wrong side of the road (just kidding)

[DM]

Originally Posted by ScottyDog

it has little scope for a hinge without beefing it up.

The Italians make hinged and width adjustable A frames. Nautequipe chandlers sell them. There's also loads of products for warp runnels for the bow and side tubes. You can also get hinged stainless/plastic ladders for afixing to A frames and even foot straps which drop back into their own recess.

Is anyone interested in this round thing with spokes that I've invented?

DM