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15 March 2003, 09:04
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Country: Greece
Town: Gloucetsreshire
Boat name: GATO DI MARE
Make: MAR.CO
Length: 9m +
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Info needed for WILDCAT RIBs
Does any one has any info for WILDCAT RIBs. They were racing in the TransAgulhas F3 Challenge (didn't do all that well) and also found their web site
www.wildcatribs.com
However, I have never seen one around (in Europe that is although in the site it says 'Wildcat boats have proven themselves overseas and locally.').
I am interested on their 9 mtr boat (may be with a forward cabin conversion) and wondering if anyone knows anything more about them.
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15 March 2003, 10:44
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Town: Hamble
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Manos
Just a thought, does anyone build a rib that at some point you are not thinking of buying?
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15 March 2003, 11:00
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Manos
from memory they sold & displayed these boats at a Brokerage next door to Aladins cave chandlery at the Bursledon Bridge , other side of Moodys yaght marina on the Hamble
Give Aladins cave a call they should be able to tell you the name of the broker next door
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15 March 2003, 11:51
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Member
Country: Greece
Town: Gloucetsreshire
Boat name: GATO DI MARE
Make: MAR.CO
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Engine: Yamaha 200Vmax
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Matiboy
Thanks a lot for the info.
I'm just interested about that boat as it may be sold at a lower price than those in Europe.
Since I'm after a cabin RIB may be (if this is at the right price and they do it with a cabin) will have a look at it.
Still looking for a cabin RIB though
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15 March 2003, 15:41
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Corect link
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15 March 2003, 15:47
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Member
Country: Greece
Town: Gloucetsreshire
Boat name: GATO DI MARE
Make: MAR.CO
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Thanks Matiboy
but the link is
http://www.wildcatrib.com
this is the SAfrican link.
The prices of those boats looks great. Doesn't it??
Wonder what they are like
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15 March 2003, 19:11
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Gosport
Boat name: April Lass
Make: Moody 31
Length: 9m +
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Err no actually, £500 for a single console even Ribtec don't charge that !
Add VAT and customs costs and you are probably at the same price for a UK built boat, which hopefully won't have wavy reinforcement like the photo of the Falcon.
Sorry but not convinced.
Pete
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15 March 2003, 19:35
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Town: scotland
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And I thought I was the only person who thought the falcon laminating looked dreadful!, well, me and Giggler.
If they can't be bothered to get a simple thing like the stiffening straight, what else isn't right? it also looked like it was made entirely out of CSM! nice!
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15 March 2003, 19:42
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Town: Gosport
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John,
Would CSM be chopped strand mach'y (as in paper then ?)
Pete
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15 March 2003, 19:55
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Country: Greece
Town: Gloucetsreshire
Boat name: GATO DI MARE
Make: MAR.CO
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Pete7
Well had a better look on these boats and I don't think I'll be considering them. Too narrow for my liking (the 9.00 mtrs that is). However, I still think that they are cheap.
Re the console for 500 quid may be is a typing error??? (found one or two my self in their SAfrican web page)
Any way this is the end of the wild cat boat.
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15 March 2003, 19:58
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Member
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Town: Gloucetsreshire
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I still think
That this boat is the best boat their is right now representing excellent construction, outstanding finish and good value for money and performance!!
But then again I may be biased??
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15 March 2003, 20:15
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Country: UK - England
Town: scotland
Boat name: Leviathan
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Quote:
Originally posted by Pete7
John,
Would CSM be chopped strand mach'y (as in paper then ?)
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Pete,
Now come on, don't start me off again, I'll end up with another suspension!
P.S. I think you spell it 'mache' (with a hyphen)
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15 March 2003, 21:47
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Country: UK - England
Town: Gosport
Boat name: April Lass
Make: Moody 31
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John,
I hadn't intended to get you sent to the sin bin for a week, I was wondering about the abreviation "CSM" when you referred to the the Falcon.
Sorry about the spelling, I even looked it up in the Chambers Dictionary, for all the good it did me.
Been a long day what with Wavehumper tearing up great chunks of my Pacific 22 deck with his bare hands, long story, photos follow next week but it does look a mess at the mo.
Pete
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15 March 2003, 22:30
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Make: HumberOceanOffshore
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Jon
And I thought I was the only person who thought the falcon laminating looked dreadful!, well, me and Giggler.
Nah, me too. It was like a dog's hind leg.
Oi! What's wrong with CSM then?
Didn't know you had been banned. Am I missing something?
JW.
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15 March 2003, 23:50
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JW,
CSM (chopped strand mat) is OK, in fact very good for bulk and under compression, but under tension and in fact most flexing situations you want good old woven, or + and - 45. It's interesting looking at the different layup schedules people use, I don't think there are many builders who sit down and really think through exactly which way all the twisting and loading will occur when thier boats go to work (by work I don't mean sodding around at 20 knts on a calm day)
Strands of glass are increadibly strong under tension, but crap under compression, so it's dead important to plan out all the directional glass so it can do it's job properly.
I was banned a couple of times, or was it three, when I first came on the forum, I have to confess to coming on purely for a wind up as a very good pal of mine said "you have to go on ribnet and see what b*****ks a couple of people are talking on there"!
I registered as "splodge"(see "Formula 1 2003" thread in rib gallery), then as "smudge", then as "innocent" but apparently I wasn't so I got banned again! but I'm reformed now, out on parole so to speak.
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16 March 2003, 00:09
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Re: I still think
Quote:
Originally posted by Manos
That this boat is the best boat their is right now representing excellent construction, outstanding finish and good value for money and performance!!
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Manos, any builder can build a boat strong enough to stay together,but it may be too heavy, any builder can build a boat light enough to be fast, but it may break or look like it's been to hell and back after one race.
The art is in building one that can do both,
from strength, weight, good hull design and knowelegable set up comes a boat capable of winning races, that is the true test.
your falcon may prove to be all these things, but experience tells me 'one' should keep 'ones' gob shut until the fat lady has finished squarking or a metric tonne of humble pye may be delivered to 'one's' door! and 'one' might not even be hungry! LOL
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16 March 2003, 00:27
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Member
Country: Greece
Town: Gloucetsreshire
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whatever Jon
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16 March 2003, 00:34
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Country: UK - England
Town: Blackpool
Boat name: To Exi
Make: new sib 4 man
Length: 8+ft
Engine: Mariner 4hp long shaft
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The famouse World renowned JF boat designer/builder has spocken
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16 March 2003, 00:36
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Town: scotland
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Manos I truely hope your boat is a great success, I'm just saying don't be too gobby about it at this early stage, there's plenty of time for that when your holding a chequered flag, you won't get any heckeling then!
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16 March 2003, 00:40
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spelling lesson for crazyhorse
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Originally posted by crazyhorse
The famouse JF boat designer has spocken
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'The famous JF boat designer has spoken'
Now Coates, write it out on the blackboard 100 times! LOL
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