is searider worth the money?

[Bilge Rat]

118118... where abouts are you based, if you can i'd suggest trying out as many small boats before you make any decisions either way, a test run might just help you decide whats good and whats crap, then once you have an idea and know what you want the money isn't a big deal.

Your more than welcome out with me and the sub 5 gang any time for a run.

[Jono]

Originally Posted by ADS

... it smokes like Fawley refinery at idle too.

Oi! We're doing something about that!

[Jono]

Originally Posted by Bilge Rat

...Your more than welcome out with me and the sub 5 gang any time for a run.

... Elitist bunch....

[Bilge Rat]

Originally Posted by Jono

... Elitist bunch....

.... The guys looking for a sub 5 metre boat, hardly think its appropriate taking him out on a 7 metre boat in this instance is it !!

No not elitist at all, any ones welcome along so long as they dont mind waiting around for the smaller slower boats

[Jono]

Yes, Bilge, I'd managed to work that out.. I was attempting to be humerous...

[Movin On]

Hi 118118,

i have a 4m searider deluxe, 4seats 50 hp mercury power trim and tilt, trailer covers etc all 1989.
This model is all black with red pipping one of only four ever built.
If you want to buy let me know.

[tcwozere]

Originally Posted by Daniel TD5

i did say seariders are the best but they cost the most second hand and may be the money would go that little bit further on a super sport

This is true.. But you could compare it to buying a second hand Landrover or a secondhand Lada Niva.. Both 4x4's.. But no-one objects to paying over the odd's for the Landrover.. Searider's retain their value cos they have the build quality, like a Landrover..

[Rupert Bear]

Have you ever actually had a Landrover?
High build quality my ass

[gingercoastie]

Originally Posted by tcwozere

Searider's have the build quality, like a Landrover..

I drive a discovery, so if the above is true I will never have a Searider........

[tcwozere]

Originally Posted by Rupert Bear

Have you ever actually had a Landrover?
High build quality my ass

shhhhh... it's a comparison for Daniel the Landrover owner..

[Daniel TD5]

Originally Posted by tcwozere

shhhhh... it's a comparison for Daniel the Landrover owner..

don,t start the 4x4 bit again i am very pissed with landrover at the mo
that why i have this as a company car

any old landrover top marks with me

any way this looks a bit smart may be worth a look


http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...sPageName=WDVW

[ADS]

Originally Posted by Daniel TD5

i did say seariders are the best but they cost the most second hand and may be the money would go that little bit further on a super sport

seen two valiant vanguard 4m for around 3.5k both had 40hp both were a 1996/7 year and looked nice been a few humbers for 3k on ebay

just see what comes up

i agree with you about (or any other 16 yr old, looked after rib), its the looked after bit that makes them good buys

dan

Dan is absolutely right here, you can get more supersport for the money. That Searider mentioned at the beginning of the thread was £1900 with a dubious 1988 Johnson 30HP manual start + tilt.

I paid £1900 for my 1990 Avon Supersport, boat was previously a yacht tender and kept on the fordeck of a 100ft sailing yacht so has had little use. The engine is a 1992 Suzuki 40HP with electric start and power tilt and is immaculate. The boat came fitted with a brand new Outhill two seater console and flash steering wheel. Trailers not bad either. Although the Supersport has a shallow V and does not have the image of the searider it is just as well built. It is also hilarious to drive and with a 40 I can come out of any corner completly side ways! A supersport is ideal for someone with a budget of £2 - 2.5 K. But if 118118 had a budget of 3k I would recommend spending all of that budget and getting a decent Searider, because they handle the rough stuff alot better.

Alex

[ADS]

Originally Posted by Daniel TD5

don,t start the 4x4 bit again i am very pissed with landrover at the mo
that why i have this as a company car

any old landrover top marks with me

any way this looks a bit smart may be worth a look


http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...sPageName=WDVW

I saw that on ebay Dan but I can't understand why there are no pictures of this 'brand new' Tohatsu. That is its main selling point. It think you would have to go and look at that before placing a bid.

Alex

[118118]

i have seen that too! ebay boat
the one thing i thought is that the bidding will probably get quite high because of all the spare bits!

what do you guys thik the top price for that would be, £3500ish?

thanks again for all the help!!!

[Daniel TD5]

Originally Posted by ADS

I saw that on ebay Dan but I can't understand why there are no pictures of this 'brand new' Tohatsu. That is its main selling point. It think you would have to go and look at that before placing a bid.

Alex

don,t by any rib with out looking at it first on ebay but it looks ok

it can be very hard to get the right rib i drove to devon and got my replacement one i had to look passed the crap wireing bad antie foul and so no the engine was sound and new would have cost over 11k it needed tidying up and a few bits sorting out but at the price it was well worth the money i went out in may this year and got a new valiant 4,50 vanguard
a nice rib but it did not suit the fun i had for it to do so i changed it for this
new one and so far i am still enjoying it apart from some small set backs

so don.t go for a name thats the best go for a started rib for a year have some fun. out it for what you paided for it and get what you want

dan

[ADS]

Originally Posted by 118118

i have seen that too! ebay boat
the one thing i thought is that the bidding will probably get quite high because of all the spare bits!

what do you guys thik the top price for that would be, £3500ish?

thanks again for all the help!!!

I reckon probably £3500 beacause I guess they will be trying to recover the money from buying the new engine. However, just had a closer look and in the questions bit it says the outboard is 6 years old but has had only 20 hours use. That is a different proposition beacause I guess the outboard is out of warranty, might be worth asking why its had so little use.
I would contact the seller and ask what they would take for it with out the spares. However, you would probably be able to sell the spares on quite easily -I'd be interested in the A frame.

Alex
Thanks, whoever gave me another blob!

[boatster]

Originally Posted by ADS

Dan is absolutely right here, you can get more supersport for the money. That Searider mentioned at the beginning of the thread was £1900 with a dubious 1988 Johnson 30HP manual start + tilt.

I paid £1900 for my 1990 Avon Supersport, boat was previously a yacht tender and kept on the fordeck of a 100ft sailing yacht so has had little use. The engine is a 1992 Suzuki 40HP with electric start and power tilt and is immaculate. The boat came fitted with a brand new Outhill two seater console and flash steering wheel. Trailers not bad either. Although the Supersport has a shallow V and does not have the image of the searider it is just as well built. It is also hilarious to drive and with a 40 I can come out of any corner completly side ways! A supersport is ideal for someone with a budget of £2 - 2.5 K. But if 118118 had a budget of 3k I would recommend spending all of that budget and getting a decent Searider, because they handle the rough stuff alot better.

Alex

ADS,

you are so right about the supersport getting sideways. Its a blast even with my 30 (which I'm currently rebuilding). If I floor it across the water its like a bucking bronco. Soo fun.

With regards to my newly acquired 1990 Searider it is a serious offshore boat. It hops and absorbs the swells beautifully. I was running back across the channel next to a 17' dory boat and while they were slamming hard against the swell I was floating along going 10 mph faster. Beautiful boat. I'm glad I paid the extra $$$ to get a searider. It helps that it came with a 2000 Tohatsu 50 in immaculate condition.

I need a blob!!!

[118118]

can anyone recomend a broker on the southcoast of the uk that stocks small secondhand ribs?

i need a blob!

me too!!

[Bilge Rat]

118118......having bought an older second hand boat and engine and after rebuilding it once and then still having to replace it with a new engine i feel i'm well qualified to comment about buying older boats, with all due respect to Dan TD5 he's only ever bought new and now nearly new, new boats have a dealer warranty with both the engine and boat, you simply cant go wrong, nearly new you still have the knowledge that the boats still fresh and working correctly, buy something 10 years old and your talking about a different ball game !
But as long as the hull and transom are sound then anything else can be fixed with a little time and money, what you do need to be aware of though is the engine and engine state and its these that cost the most on boats, a brand new 5 metre xs rib without engine or trailer is 3.8k...... so the boats themselves are relatively cheap compared to the total cost, a 60hp 4 stroke yamaha will set you back the best part of 5k add to this the trailer, and all the bits that go with the boat and your looking at 10k ish and that before you fit it out with A frame, electronics and nav aids.

So the older secondhand market looks more attractive for strating out, but be careful of the hidden costs like engine repair or replacement or damage to the actual hull or transom.

[Jimbo]

Hi Guys,

I've been looking at that RIB too, apparently it is almost certainly already sold though.
If I bought it, I'd get a 50hp 2 stroke to go on the back (Plas Menai seem to be selling a 3 year old mariner for £700, seems to good to be true - www.plasmenai.co.uk)

I'm in a similar position, I've got up to £3000 to spend on a RIB, and I want something no smaller than 4m, but about that size, to run RYA courses on, as I am a PBI.

If anyone reckons they have a 4m ish with a decent engine on the back, must have centre console, mail james@edgeoftheenvelope.net and we can talk about it!

I am at Uni in Portsmouth, but live in North Kent, so anywhere relatively local to either would be good.
Jimbo.