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02 January 2013, 19:00
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Originally Posted by Doug Stormforce
While I am not suggesting these guys are very clever you have to look at the other side.
They did not call SAR out.
When offered a tow back in the declined with a "No Thanks"
Why on earth should they have to pay for anything? and why should there be a way of "making them pay"?
As far as i can see from the story someone called in that a boat was in trouble and it turned out they were not.
Im with Starovich on this. Offer them help, offer them advice, if they don't want it let darwin sort it out.
Nos- why would you want a "compulsory towing act"? The responsibility for the safety of a vessel surly lies with the skipper, it is not the place of a lifeboatman to decide who can stay out and who must come in
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Agreed......as an ex LBM.......advise, and judge the situation, you wouldn't leave them out there if you thought they'd die, so the Darwin bit doesn't really count. We decked a drunk helm once that had kids on board.....he said thanks afterwards.
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02 January 2013, 19:42
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Town: NorCal
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Originally Posted by Boats&Outboards
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The picture portrayed looks like very nice conditions to me and I would happily be out sibbing. Not knowing the area I can't say how far their recovery point was from their location at the time, but as long as the impending storm could be avoided I still don't see why we couldn't call it a nice day on the water.
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02 January 2013, 19:59
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The weather and visibility on saturday were dire though the rain died off in the afternoon,no other boats were out that i could see. Flood warnings were in place for the south west and these chaps head out in choppy waters with no one else about with the cg warning a storm front was coming in
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02 January 2013, 20:17
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That's why context is important.
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02 January 2013, 20:28
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Town: Jersey
Boat name: Archangel
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Originally Posted by Waterman
Just out of interest how many people send a Tango Romeo when heading out?? I have very rarely heard one over the net....
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In my rib - every single time without fail. On my jet ski - hardly ever since I don't want the CG to give me a lecture about how dangerous it is to ski alone to France.
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02 January 2013, 20:32
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does a jet ski need a nav plan, or at least an intention of destination? Or is it assumed that where they launch that is where they'll berth ( as it were ) ?
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02 January 2013, 20:39
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Originally Posted by mister p
does a jet ski need a nav plan, or at least an intention of destination? Or is it assumed that where they launch that is where they'll berth ( as it were ) ?
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It's not so much that, it's the assumption that jet skis must only be used in sheltered waters and that anyone who wants to take one offshore must be mental or reckless. I'm simply not inclined to enter into a debate on the radio about it.
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02 January 2013, 20:43
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Some of the jet skis are bigger than ribs, I have a friend that commutes from Hout Bay to Capetown on his jetski........it's a monster, but there it makes as much sense as a scooter, or indeed a Hayabusa.
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02 January 2013, 23:08
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That's a good effort considering how big the bruces get down there!
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02 January 2013, 23:10
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Town: Royal Wootton Bassett
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Wasn't the original story about the call outs over Christmas including a man seen walking into the sea on Christmas day?
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02 January 2013, 23:12
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Town: Wakefield
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Did they find the lad that jumped off the Torbay ferry.
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02 January 2013, 23:24
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Originally Posted by mick
Did they find the lad that jumped off the Torbay ferry.
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No, called off the search overnight yesterday and resumed today, now off again, problem being a lot of locals/friends are trying to organise searches including some through the night which obviously the police are trying to deter. You can understand them needing to o something but as we know its best left to the professionals, else they'll end up taking resources away from the main search
My understanding is the alarm wasn't raised right away, with the group waiting until the ferry docked thinking he'd swam ashore, added to that drink, water temp etc and its not looking good at all. Very sad all round. Can only hope tomorrow brings better news for the family
Torpoint Ferry, not Torbay
Peter @ Boatsandoutboards4sale ~ www.BoatsandOutboards4Sale.co.uk ~ 07930 421007
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02 January 2013, 23:27
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I'm sorry to hear that
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02 January 2013, 23:43
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Originally Posted by whisper
I'm sorry to hear that
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Me to just heard it on the radio and new it started with a T
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03 January 2013, 00:57
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Originally Posted by whisper
I'm sorry to hear that
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+1 very sad to here news like this.
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03 January 2013, 04:13
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I hope the OP is proud of this stream of BS. I would have expected better of him.
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03 January 2013, 08:17
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Limey Linda
I hope the OP is proud of this stream of BS. I would have expected better of him.
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I don't understand why you have a wasp up your skirt with this thread? It is a valid debate.
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03 January 2013, 13:20
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And to cap it all I heard on Radio 2 this morning that someone has come up with the brilliant idea of making 999 a premium rate number! What happens if you don't have any money handy or a card or whatever at a phone box? what about the number of people that are put off genuine emergencies - I could go on!
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Originally Posted by Zippy
When a boat looks that good who needs tubes!!!
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03 January 2013, 16:28
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cookee
And to cap it all I heard on Radio 2 this morning that someone has come up with the brilliant idea of making 999 a premium rate number! What happens if you don't have any money handy or a card or whatever at a phone box? what about the number of people that are put off genuine emergencies - I could go on!
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BBC News - Tayside officer calls for 999 callers to be charged 50p
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03 January 2013, 16:28
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rokraider
I don't understand why you have a wasp up your skirt with this thread?
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He's the only WASP in the Village
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