It was going so well...then bang!

[spartacus]

I’d also be thinking about the resale value when you come to move it on if this is simply a temporary engine until your ideal engine makes an appearance.

Cameron at Clyde Outboards has this. Still surprised by price if I’m honest for 2006 lump. Anyone say Brexit? 137kg for 75 horses. It’s in Glasgow too, worth a look?

https://www.clyde-outboard-services....-2006-outboard

Not a fan, but Honda 90hp here too: https://www.ardoran.co.uk/marina/out...tboard-engines

[69cmw]

Originally Posted by fastasfox

Yes I looked at the stats before I bid.
it's just over 30 kg heavier than my old clamshell. The outboard is hanging off a 5m Humber already and I know if I end up switching to four stroke in the future then once again I'm looking at a weight increase.

My Tornado is un-plated so it's always going to be a gamble uprating the outboard, but for the past 37 years that outboard has hung on my transom and it's as solid as the day it was built.

cheers, foxy.

If you are happy with the weight, a 125hp optimax weighs the same as a 75HP optimax.
A 115/130hp 2 stroke Yam will be a similar weight.
No need for you to stick to 75 ponies 👍

[fastasfox]

Originally Posted by spartacus

I’d also be thinking about the resale value when you come to move it on if this is simply a temporary engine until your ideal engine makes an appearance.

Cameron at Clyde Outboards has this. Still surprised by price if I’m honest for 2006 lump. Anyone say Brexit? 137kg for 75 horses. It’s in Glasgow too, worth a look?

https://www.clyde-outboard-services....-2006-outboard

Not a fan, but Honda 90hp here too: https://www.ardoran.co.uk/marina/out...tboard-engines

That outboard at Clyde outboards is in stunning condition and real good value....But, and there is always a but, my long term plan is to go to a four stroke yamaha. Right now I have lot's of stuff going on....all requiring money. A cheap outboard ( if there is such a thing) just to get me back out there, is all I can afford right now. If the optimax checks out...ie Compression bore condition and running order, then I have an opportunity to with a little elbow grease to add a little value to put towards a newer outboard in the future.
An absolute cracking find btw
cheers

[fastasfox]

Originally Posted by 69cmw

If you are happy with the weight, a 125hp optimax weighs the same as a 75HP optimax.
A 115/130hp 2 stroke Yam will be a similar weight.
No need for you to stick to 75 ponies 👍

Yes I had noticed that some other much more powerful outboards are around the same weight.

I can't afford a bigger outboard right now and like I said originally...I'm not borrowing money to buy a new outboard.
I'm a bit old school with money.

There doesn't seem to be too much about right now either.
Cheers bud.

[beamishken]

Originally Posted by fastasfox

I appreciate that Ken. The outboard is off of a 5m rib that had a battery fire up in the console. They did catch the fire but it destroyed the gauges and throttle.
The optimax wouldn't be my first choice either, as the extra layer of complexity with the high pressure injection system is always going to be something else that can go wrong, but it would get me back on the water sooner rather than later.

(With regards to the offer to have a look for me)
I'm happy enough to pop to Glasgow as I drive for a living, however a second opinion would be great if you have the time. I will pm you when I have more of an idea when and if this takes place. No problem if your busy though Ken.

Cheers.

Obviously didnt make his bin price of 2k Think id be tempted to try & buy the whole lot for 17-1800 or less if you can then sell the rest trailer looks like 300 ish 100-150ish for the a frame & a 99p start & no reserveon ebay for the hull will get someone to take away the hull. Your engine is then 1200ish but you need to buy a control box even if the engine was a lemon you'd probably get your money back as spares & repairs if its a good un you'll make money when you upgrade as its a running engine & can be tried to prove it. All a bit elongated & potentially a risk but potential for a cheap get you going engine if you have the time & inclination to do it. If your going for a look happy to join you (just dont shoot me if it is a lemon under load lol)

[tinker]

Bit pricey but may have to drop it to sell, same area as well, what's going on with Glasgow and outboards.

Outboard yamaha 75hp 2 stroke ,
https://www.gumtree.com/p/for-sale/o...oke/1480006755

[smallribber]

Originally Posted by spartacus

I’d also be thinking about the resale value when you come to move it on if this is simply a temporary engine until your ideal engine makes an appearance.

Cameron at Clyde Outboards has this. Still surprised by price if I’m honest for 2006 lump. Anyone say Brexit? 137kg for 75 horses. It’s in Glasgow too, worth a look?

https://www.clyde-outboard-services....-2006-outboard

Not a fan, but Honda 90hp here too: https://www.ardoran.co.uk/marina/out...tboard-engines

That Mariner looks a very good deal I would seriously consider that one

[smallribber]

Originally Posted by tinker

Bit pricey but may have to drop it to sell, same area as well, what's going on with Glasgow and outboards.

Outboard yamaha 75hp 2 stroke ,
https://www.gumtree.com/p/for-sale/o...oke/1480006755

That is actually probably below the going rate for that engine.

Another excellent engine for your Rib

[fastasfox]

Originally Posted by Easedalenovice

That is actually probably below the going rate for that engine.

Another excellent engine for your Rib

Yes, they have a great reputation, hence why commercial and RNLI still run them.

I think I may have done a package deal for that Humber fire damaged rib. I just need the outboard, but understandably, he just wants to draw a line and have it gone...I really feel for the fella.....I just hope he was insured.

[willk]

Originally Posted by fastasfox

I really feel for the fella.....I just hope he was insured.

If he was insured, would he be selling it? Surely that would be the insurance company's problem?

[beamishken]

Originally Posted by willk

If he was insured, would he be selling it? Surely that would be the insurance company's problem?

Some insurers when you take out insurance will ask you to split up the value of the craft into hull, engine & trailer & when it comes to paying a claim, say the hull is damaged they pay out your stated value of the hull & let you keep the rest, sometimes works to your advantage, sometimes doesnt.
A couple of my pals ripped their tubes going through a farm gate & thats how their claim was settled they actually did well out of it as the hull was tatty & the bulk of the money was in the engine

[fastasfox]

Originally Posted by willk

If he was insured, would he be selling it? Surely that would be the insurance company's problem?

He planned on rebuilding and re-tubing it, but the cost of the re-tube scared him off. Plus new console electronics,remotes and the like pushed the rebuild over 8k

I don't know if he was insured, but it's not uncommon to purchase the vehicle back as part of the settlement.....I did that with my wife's Saab convertible...They practically gave the car back to me as it saves them having to go through the expensive hassle of recovering and disposing of the casualty vehicle. Since the pandemic most insurers now do the whole claim online, where you take pictures. Obviously it work differently for brand new vehicles and as most are not owned by the driver these day's.

[willk]

Thanks for the insights, makes more sense now.

I wonder if that 75hp has been working hard for a living - lifted and finned, was it being caned all day?

[tinker]

Originally Posted by fastasfox

Yes, they have a great reputation, hence why commercial and RNLI still run them.

I think I may have done a package deal for that Humber fire damaged rib. I just need the outboard, but understandably, he just wants to draw a line and have it gone...I really feel for the fella.....I just hope he was insured.

Nice one, it's a nice project for you to sort out, at least you have a way to transport it home. Great thread BTW, shows what a forum can offer it's members 👏

[fastasfox]

Originally Posted by tinker

Nice one, it's a nice project for you to sort out, at least you have a way to transport it home. Great thread BTW, shows what a forum can offer it's members 👏

Absolutely.
I will update you when and if the deal gets done....I have arranged with the chap for next Saturday.

Hopefully Ken is free to give me that second opinion.

[fastasfox]

Originally Posted by willk

Thanks for the insights, makes more sense now.

I wonder if that 75hp has been working hard for a living - lifted and finned, was it being caned all day?

Looking at the rib it came from and the condition of the boat I wouldn't say it was used in a comercial sense.
Problem is when you buy second hand you never really know what your buying and how well it has been treated ...even if you do have the logged hours...you never know how hard they have been.

Like Ken said, even if it turns out to be a lemon I could break it for parts and get my money back.

My expectations are low and I fully expect to have to at the very least do a major service on it.

[fastasfox]

Originally Posted by willk

Thanks for the insights, makes more sense now.

I wonder if that 75hp has been working hard for a living - lifted and finned, was it being caned all day?

I forgot to ask you, when you said "lifted and finned " I understood the hydrofoils but didn't understand the lifted part.....what did you mean exactly when you said lifted?

[Pikey Dave]

It’s sat on a packer on the transom. Either the transom has been cut down, or the engine is the wrong shaft length for the boat.

[smallribber]

Originally Posted by fastasfox

I forgot to ask you, when you said "lifted and finned " I understood the hydrofoils but didn't understand the lifted part.....what did you mean exactly when you said lifted?

Lifted simply means that someone adapted their transom to fit the engine they had.

Lifted means they had an engine where the shaft length was too long for the boat so they packed the transom at the top to make it fit.

No real issue at all and can’t see any reason why this would mean bad things about the engine. As for the fins some people just like and believe in them so they fit them

[fastasfox]

Originally Posted by Easedalenovice

Lifted simply means that someone adapted their transom to fit the engine they had.

Lifted means they had an engine where the shaft length was too long for the boat so they packed the transom at the top to make it fit.

No real issue at all and can’t see any reason why this would mean bad things about the engine. As for the fins some people just like and believe in them so they fit them

The fella says on his 5m Humber it went up to 40 knotts, but to be honest if it holds 25 steady , I will be happy.
I will see how it runs with the fins on and if I don't like them I will take them off.
If this deal pan's out I will go right through the outboard...New fuel pump diaphragms,High pressure fuel filter, injector seals, plugs Impeller and gearbox oil change.
I will look at the fuel pipes and change if necessary.
Then and only then I will set about tidying it up a bit....honestly nothing makes me happier than tinkering lol