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01 May 2018, 19:51
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Jerry Cans?
Just like it says on the tin
Just wondering if anyone:
a) has strong views on metal versions ( I expect corrosion to exclude them- and I'm not buying polished S/Steel ones! although I'd like to)
b) can recommend a brand for 20-25L cans? I have Scepter cans but they have a spout integrated into the cap- which is great, but you have to remove spout from inside full can every time (drip drip drip drip). The cap won't seal without the spout being in place. Would rather use syphon and not have spout that has to be brought along.
Whatever I replace them with is likely to be online purchase so other people's experience would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
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01 May 2018, 20:35
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I’ve got 5 of these, superb cans but were considerably cheaper when I bought them.
https://www.frost.co.uk/scepter-mili...y-can-20l.html
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01 May 2018, 21:01
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Iron Dials
Whatever I replace them with is likely to be online purchase so other people's experience would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
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Pikey bought his Scepters from their Irish Agent of Military Spec kit - scroll down the page in the link. Linky. I spoke with them on his behalf - they are legitimate but very "low key" - don't ask them what they sell other than cans!!! Back then, a minimum purchase was 5 cans... €€€
I moved to diesel after that and didn't buy a set.
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01 May 2018, 21:13
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I’ve got 4 of these (20lt version) that I’ve been using for the last 2 years.
https://www.westfalia.net/shops/car_...35-x-31-cm.htm
Had no problems. Good quality for the money.
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01 May 2018, 21:19
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Originally Posted by Wrekindave
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They look a good deal
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01 May 2018, 21:28
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wrekindave
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Cracking price like the way the spout is tucked away
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01 May 2018, 21:47
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I've got four of these and a couple of them are at least five years old.
20ltr version
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PLASTIC-5...ar=&hash=item0
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01 May 2018, 21:50
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+1 I’ve six of em and just got another for water in the mhome. Very solid great value
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01 May 2018, 21:58
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02 May 2018, 01:05
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I use the plastic ones (5 of them ) I've had the metal ones leak at the lids before. Plastic are the ,most commonly used over here and sold everywhere. Most of the plastic ones have a seperate breather to let the pressure off, which can be an issue over here in the heat. I have 4 red for petrol, 1 black for diesel and 4 blue for water. When doing remote trips I carry a couple of 25 lt Yamaha connection tanks as well as my 100lt underfloor, which gives me a safe 600km range. I often store my fuel and water onremote islands and find dropping the plastic cans over the side to wade to shore no problem ( as long as the breather is closed ).
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02 May 2018, 01:12
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Another vote for the Westfalia 20l plastic can. Decent price and seems robust. Had mine for 2 years now.
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02 May 2018, 09:00
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Thanks very much guys,
Plastic it is.
I’ve found the westfalia ones closer to home to avoid delivery charges (but might spend a day bargain hunting for the Scepter military ones..)
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02 May 2018, 10:25
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Our local supermarket won't let me fill jerry cans, they stick to the letter of the law, 2x 5ltr plastic cans or 2 x 10ltr metal fuel cans - all with appropriate markings on for carrying petrol. So 20 ltr jerry cans are a no no Technically its also illegal to store fuel (petrol ) at home in jerry cans, again their oversize Don't you just love our nanny state
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02 May 2018, 10:47
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fender
Technically its also illegal to store fuel (petrol )
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Well technically you're not storing it. You're transporting it.
If you made up a cap with a hose through it you could call it a "static engine" fuel tank and filling that would be legal...
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02 May 2018, 11:08
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Hi,
Hope you don't mind me jumping in on this thread. It caught my eye as i'd love to use plastic jerry cans instead of metal ones which even after just 1 year of use end up rusty and dirty.
However I thought if over 10L they had to be metal? See http://www.hse.gov.uk/fireandexplosi...containers.pdf
Possibly that only applies to businesses and 20L plastic cans are ok for private individuals.
It's confusing as elsewhere in the CDG wording it simply states that container needs to be UN approved. See Carriage of Dangerous Goods Manual - Packaging
Cheers,
Tony
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02 May 2018, 11:11
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Jerry Cans?
I stopped using the metal ones years ago. I now have five of the Pacermarine plastic jerries and have found them really good both in terms of stability and reversible internal spout which acts as a seal. Recommend them to others who are really pleased with them.
eBay item 361777986557
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02 May 2018, 11:19
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Last Tango
Well technically you're not storing it. You're transporting it.
If you made up a cap with a hose through it you could call it a "static engine" fuel tank and filling that would be legal...
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Maybe thats where I'm reading the HSE info incorrectly and plastic 20L cans are OK for transportation but not storage?
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02 May 2018, 11:26
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>>>Our local supermarket won't let me fill jerry cans, they stick to the letter of the law, 2x 5ltr plastic cans or 2 x 10ltr metal fuel cans - all with appropriate markings on for carrying petrol.
I see our local Tesco has recently put up a sign explaining exactly that.
I rarely need to buy more than 5l (for home testing) as we live 80mls from the sea and not wanting to drive with loads of petrol in the car I buy our fuel in the nearest coastal location fuel station to where we launch. So far I've never been refused 25l + 12l in plastic outboard tanks and I always ask first referring to them as "my boat tanks".
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02 May 2018, 11:35
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This is from Dorset Council but probably reflects national law.
https://www.dorsetforyou.gov.uk/medi...g_Stations.pdf
Note the specific reference to vessel fuel tanks.
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02 May 2018, 11:37
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Local Solent fuel barge a couple of weeks ago, £1.46 a litre of petrol - pays to do many trips with fuel cans!! lol
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