Jetskiers at Baiter slipway in Poole

[Nos4r2]

Originally Posted by fred bolton

Answers simple if they don't follow the rules and cause a nuisance to other users seize their craft and crush it, a bit Alf Garnett but I'm sure it would work.

Why is it always a tiny minority who ruin things for every one else?

Or just ban their ski from the slipway...

[1eyedjim]

Originally Posted by Nos4r2

Or just ban their ski from the slipway...

this would be the best idea. stops people playing up and doesnt effect the people not causing trouble

[Poly]

problem with banning the user is that if there are 3 or 4 mates all using one craft then thats 3 or 4 people who just re-register before you even have to start using pseudonyms.

[Nos4r2]

Originally Posted by Polwart

problem with banning the user is that if there are 3 or 4 mates all using one craft then thats 3 or 4 people who just re-register before you even have to start using pseudonyms.

No,ban the ski itself (they have to show registration numbers) not the user. It costs to get a permit and it's hard to sell locally if it can't be used locally

[1eyedjim]

Originally Posted by Nos4r2

No,ban the ski itself (they have to show registration numbers) not the user. It costs to get a permit and it's hard to sell locally if it can't be used locally

99% of all skis are datatagged aswell so they good as have their own registration/id number in obvious view that makes it easier to report the ski itself

[Poly]

Originally Posted by Nos4r2

No,ban the ski itself (they have to show registration numbers) not the user. It costs to get a permit and it's hard to sell locally if it can't be used locally

Ok - but (1) it would be unreasonable for someone buying a ski not to be able to use it because the previous owner had been a tit. Imagine if you bought a car and were liable for the previous owners' misdemeanours associated with it (you could get points, parking fines, or if you bought it from JSP a couple of kids) (2) Given that there is no central registration of ski serial numbers / owners etc then how do you stop someone simply reregisterring the same ski; the enforcement isn't going to be easy.

The only way that works is if registration is expensive. That would almost certainly be across the board and penalise you too.

[Bigmuz7]

Pity there isnt some sort of 'stinger' for jetskis .. some sort of semi submersible tacks thrown in their path that gets sucked up by the drive would be good which then sink .. once they become saturated wheres me notepad and the patent offices number

[Nos4r2]

Originally Posted by Polwart

Ok - but (1) it would be unreasonable for someone buying a ski not to be able to use it because the previous owner had been a tit. Imagine if you bought a car and were liable for the previous owners' misdemeanours associated with it (you could get points, parking fines, or if you bought it from JSP a couple of kids) (2) Given that there is no central registration of ski serial numbers / owners etc then how do you stop someone simply reregisterring the same ski; the enforcement isn't going to be easy.

The only way that works is if registration is expensive. That would almost certainly be across the board and penalise you too.

I think the registration number stays with the ski and is keyed to the HIN. If you had to pay for a new registration on change of ownership...

[HUMBER P4VWL]

(you could get points, parking fines, or if you bought it from JSP a couple of kids) (2)

[neilda]

There's always divine retribution of course:


http://uk.cars.yahoo.com/28042010/36...lfs-car-0.html


"A car was almost swept away by the tide in Burnham-on-Sea when it was parked on the beach while its occupants tried out a new jet ski."

[fred bolton]

Originally Posted by Nos4r2

Or just ban their ski from the slipway...

They are pratting about where they shouldn't be anyway and nothing gets done so why would banning them be any different the authorities do not seem to be policing it. Now if they were given the incentive of CRUSHING it they maybe suitably motivated

[Paul Cannell]

There has been a reply to the thread on pwcforums from PW Partnership.

Forum: General Jetski Chit Chat
Topic: Baiter - Poole
Posted By: PW Partnership

We have just spoken to Poole Harbour Master and the following has been confirmed:
- As of June there will be a new PHC harbour patrol PWC in action run by MBS volunteers who have harbour master powers - this will be run specifically to target PWC riders in the area as in previous years.

- Until June PHC will be sending a foot patrol down to Baiter at weekends to gather evidence i.e. Datatag ID numbers, photographs of anyone breaking harbour byelaws and will advise/prosecute accordingly.

- Please be aware that the permit sales booth on Baiter slipway is purely there to sell permits NOT to govern the area, this is not the job they are employed to do.

If you see an issue occuring within the Harbour, regardless of the activity then please consider our motto of 'Action NOT reaction' by contacting Poole Harbour Control directly and immediately so that the incident can be logged and responded to accordingly.

[Jizm]

Originally Posted by Paul Cannell

There has been a reply to the thread on pwcforums from PW Partnership.

Forum: General Jetski Chit Chat
Topic: Baiter - Poole
Posted By: PW Partnership

We have just spoken to Poole Harbour Master and the following has been confirmed:
- As of June there will be a new PHC harbour patrol PWC in action run by MBS volunteers who have harbour master powers - this will be run specifically to target PWC riders in the area as in previous years.

- Until June PHC will be sending a foot patrol down to Baiter at weekends to gather evidence i.e. Datatag ID numbers, photographs of anyone breaking harbour byelaws and will advise/prosecute accordingly.

- Please be aware that the permit sales booth on Baiter slipway is purely there to sell permits NOT to govern the area, this is not the job they are employed to do.

If you see an issue occuring within the Harbour, regardless of the activity then please consider our motto of 'Action NOT reaction' by contacting Poole Harbour Control directly and immediately so that the incident can be logged and responded to accordingly.

Result, see how it goes....

[Nos4r2]

Yes, a real result.

I suspect, given the enthusiastic way the PHC patrol boat was chasing some twit in daddy's bowrider doing 30+ knots and zigzagging through the moorings on Saturday they'll kick some butt.

[Jizm]

Originally Posted by Nos4r2

Yes, a real result.

I suspect, given the enthusiastic way the PHC patrol boat was chasing some twit in daddy's bowrider doing 30+ knots and zigzagging through the moorings on Saturday they'll kick some butt.

Let's hope so, then they can move to Hythe and sort that out....

[Steve_B]

Originally Posted by Nos4r2

Yes, a real result.

I suspect, given the enthusiastic way the PHC patrol boat was chasing some twit in daddy's bowrider doing 30+ knots and zigzagging through the moorings on Saturday they'll kick some butt.

If they caught them, the fines are substancial!

[Nos4r2]

Originally Posted by 250kts

If they caught them, the fines are substancial!

Yep, he caught him.Given the way he was behaving, I'd be surprised if his fine doesn't make the Echo.

I was laughing quite hard when the guy realised he was being chased and stopped.

[HUMBER P4VWL]

What are the fines? Are they substantial enough for someone whose daddy gets them a bowrider?

Good they are doing something!

(Wish they would come and charge the mussell fishermen on the menai straits for doing donuts! then we could get a marina at beamaris!)

[Avocet]

Maximum fine is £1,000.00. In practice, they tend to be in the region of £200.00/£300.00.

[Paul Cannell]

Originally Posted by Avocet

Maximum fine is £1,000.00. In practice, they tend to be in the region of £200.00/£300.00.

In Essex they tend to be towards the upper quarter of the maximum.