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Kerny and Jambo aka Waldorf and stradler
Trust you too muppets to lower the tone of this guys thread now go and play in the bilges where you both belong 
Nice looking 1st Rib. If you listen to Polwarts advice you won't go far wrong even if he does go on a bit some times
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Haha you guys are funny  hope to get out on boat this Sunday, thanks for the advice, I will do as you have said with the trim etc.. Cheers
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That's you off his Christmas card list 
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My hull's ali, no crack filler needed or desired
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Oh man - now you've torn it!
Capt. Kerny is still touchy about hull cracks... 
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Oh man - now you've torn it!
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Hi guys, only got out on the Rib for the 1st time last Wenesday after health and other minor problems. It has been sat outdoors all this time and she fired up 1st time no problem -temps looked ok when out running and the water was flowing out the cooling hole ok.
The only problem I have is very stiff steering -the system is hydrolic, it's stiff in every direction with the tilt up or down and in the water.. Any suggestions.. Could it just be a grease thing? Thanks.
PS. I will post a link to video and pics later if interested.. Thanks again.
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There is a "friction" aka "stiffness" adjuster there somewhere. Stops kickback etc., and as it's hydraulic I reckon it may be set to "stiff". Have a nose around by the swivel point of the OB and also by your wheel. A + or - usually is a tell-tale. But it may come down to the fact that you are expecting a return to centre and that this is a "no feedback system" and so the helm will remain where it is until returned to centre. Also there is a fair amount of helm to overcome in a "no feedback system" so it may actually be ok.
Does that help?
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There is a "friction" aka "stiffness" adjuster there somewhere. Stops kickback etc., and as it's hydraulic I reckon it may be set to "stiff". Have a nose around by the swivel point of the OB and also by your wheel. A + or - usually is a tell-tale. But it may come down to the fact that you are expecting a return to centre and that this is a "no feedback system" and so the helm will remain where it is until returned to centre. Also there is a fair amount of helm to overcome in a "no feedback system" so it may actually be ok.
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There is a "friction" aka "stiffness" adjuster there somewhere. Stops kickback etc., and as it's hydraulic I reckon it may be set to "stiff".
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Really? On a hydraulic system? Hydraulic steering as far as I know is naturally no feedback. I would suggest the OP disconnects the steering ram from the motor arm and tries to turn the motor by hand. This will determine whether it is the motor pivot that is seized or a problem with the helm or ram. Hydraulic should not be stiff, that's the whole purpose of it. Grease any nipples you can find too...
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Yes, really.
That's what happens when something doesn't work properly ie is broken, it doesn't do what it should. Hydraulic or not. The ram could be distorted, the pipes kinked, fluidways bunged up, washers rotten, fluid contaminated with air/water.
You can't say "that's not the problem because it's hydraulic.........", it's like saying "they can't be corrupt, they're the police". But you did say "SHOULD not be stiff", and that's the key.
And I did say that hydraulic is no feedback.
And you can have friction settings on a hydraulic system. Only that they are at the engine end or wheel end and usually not directly incorporated into the hydraulic system, although these exist as well.
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Welcome back mister p Looking forward to your posts on the L.R. threads. 
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Yes, really.
That's what happens when something doesn't work properly ie is broken, it doesn't do what it should. Hydraulic or not. The ram could be distorted, the pipes kinked, fluidways bunged up, washers rotten, fluid contaminated with air/water.
You can't say "that's not the problem because it's hydraulic.........", it's like saying "they can't be corrupt, they're the police". But you did say "SHOULD not be stiff", and that's the key.
And I did say that hydraulic is no feedback.
And you can have friction settings on a hydraulic system. Only that they are at the engine end or wheel end and usually not directly incorporated into the hydraulic system, although these exist as well.
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You could probably have a stiffness adjustment that is a restriction in the line or control valve (intentional or not).
A restriction between the helm and the actuator could make the steering feel stiff.
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You probably could however the comment that hydraulic steering systems have stiffness adjustments is just not true.
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Have a nose around by the swivel point of the OB and also by your wheel. A + or - usually is a tell-tale...
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Utter Bollix. There is no stiffness adjustment on a hydraulic steering system. |
What? Are you telling me that there are no Pluses or Minuses if you have a nose around your swivel point?
I'm gutted!
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What? Are you telling me that there are no Pluses or Minuses if you have a nose around your swivel point?
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That's all new to me, you learn something every day
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