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15 December 2012, 18:12
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Kids helmets
Anyone have any good makes and models for kids helmets - I don't want to do their little squashes damage on hitting a few bumpy bits?
Kids are little - aged 6 and 4.
Much appreciated.
60N
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15 December 2012, 18:58
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Look at some of the kayaking helmets
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15 December 2012, 22:39
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Some thoughts:
(1) With a 6 and 4 year old on board do you really want to be out in conditions where a helmet is useful?
(2) The most likely thing (in my opinion) to smack on getting a big lump wrong is your face into the console or other solid object. A helmet offers little protection to a face plant on solid object.
(3) I've been out in conditions there is no way I would take my kids in. In the hands of a good skipper (not me) the risk of injury is much reduced. Spend the money on training?
(4) There is a risk of NECK injury with an unsuitable helmet during 'high speed ejection' when it 'buckets' in the water. "proper" rib helmets are designed with this in mind. Childrens neck's are weaker than adults, and kayak helmets are probably not designed for hitting the water at 30 knots?
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15 December 2012, 22:51
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Poly
Many thanks. The "idea" is that if I put the power on (having had said useful training) and one of the nippers plonks onto the floor of the boat, something is better than nothing. I've been kayaking for 20+ years and always advocate wearing a helmet regardless of flat water training or hard white water, so I feel the sensible logic transfers to the RIB? All it takes is for a slightly misjudged angle or wave to create an unstable kid on the back (at any speed) who hasn't got a full grip on the handle. I'd rather pay for a helmet and have to never be able to justify its cost than not have it and always live in regret. I won't take the kids out on the boat in anywhere near rough conditions - and it gets rough quick up here. But your logic re unsuitable helmet with neck injury is spot on. Do most RIBers not give the children helmets then?
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16 December 2012, 00:22
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Originally Posted by 60N
Do most RIBers not give the children helmets then?
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I suspect most RIBbers don't wear helmets themselves.
The leisure users I have met who wear them do so for one of the following reasons:
(i) they are good at keeping the rain off / head warm.
(ii) it is a fashion statement
(iii) they are pretending to be in the RNLI!
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16 December 2012, 00:46
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Poly
I suspect most RIBbers don't wear helmets themselves.
The leisure users I have met who wear them do so for one of the following reasons:
(i) they are good at keeping the rain off / head warm.
(ii) it is a fashion statement
(iii) they are pretending to be in the RNLI!
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Lol. I had thought iii every time I saw it in a pic.
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16 December 2012, 04:18
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1 Rain, hail, spray and salt water out of the eyes + keeps your head warm
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16 December 2012, 07:12
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My daughter uses a Gath helmet. It's about protection from the cold, salt spray and rain rather than anything else. There's a full face safety visor option that she has. They come with seperate foam inserts for tailoring the fit.
It looks nothing like an RNLI helmet :wink: which she says falls into the wouldn't-be-seen-dead-in category.
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16 December 2012, 15:51
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Poly
I suspect most RIBbers don't wear helmets themselves.
The leisure users I have met who wear them do so for one of the following reasons:
(i) they are good at keeping the rain off / head warm.
(ii) it is a fashion statement
(iii) they are pretending to be in the RNLI!
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Bought a Gecko for (i), but the damn thing is so uncomfortable I hardly ever wear it worth considering ..
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16 December 2012, 16:29
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Originally Posted by Poly
(1) With a 6 and 4 year old on board do you really want to be out in conditions where a helmet is useful?
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+1 ...
Four is very young to do anything except very very gentle stuff...they need to be able to judge the sea to some degree themselves or react if you shout 'wave' - (which is what I used to do once mine were about six/seven and started boating more.)
If you need a helmet something is not right.
Just my 2p
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16 December 2012, 16:36
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Poly
I suspect most RIBbers don't wear helmets themselves.
The leisure users I have met who wear them do so for one of the following reasons:
(i) they are good at keeping the rain off / head warm.
(ii) it is a fashion statement
(iii) they are pretending to be in the RNLI!
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17 December 2012, 01:58
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Don't encourage him. A good slap off the side of a rotomoulded hull will soon change his tune
I don't own one, but in their favour, they DO keep the rain off, AND they also protect from the Head to Head meeting, the Head to Console meeting and if fitted with a half decent intercom, enhance comms no end.
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17 December 2012, 02:58
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Originally Posted by willk
Don't encourage him. A good slap off the side of a rotomoulded hull will soon change his tune
I don't own one, but in their favour, they DO keep the rain off, AND they also protect from the Head to Head meeting, the Head to Console meeting and if fitted with a half decent intercom, enhance comms no end.
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Yo! You stick to your Tammy and goggles its far more manly an image.
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17 December 2012, 09:33
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Russian furry hat and goggles is the daft look I go for. Lovely and warm and keeps the wind roar out. Also has a bit of padding for when my boys take a flyer across the deck. I had to wear helmets in the RN and while they look the part you don't need them for normal trips.
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17 December 2012, 14:58
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Quote:
Originally Posted by macattack101
you don't need them for normal trips.
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Bearing in mind this lot on here, what's "normal"?
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17 December 2012, 15:06
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Originally Posted by Leapy
Bearing in mind this lot on here, what's "normal"?
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if you use on here normal , a non-ribnutters normal will be more than normal ...
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17 December 2012, 15:13
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Originally Posted by willk
I don't own one, but in their favour, they DO keep the rain off
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So do these and they are a dam sight cheaper and better looking
http://compare.ebay.co.uk/like/27111...ype=pla&crdt=0
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17 December 2012, 18:19
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Quote:
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Don't encourage him. A good slap off the side of a rotomoulded hull will soon change his tune
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If I'm slapping the side a little head protection is the least of my worries - that means there is a mincer coming straight for me.
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I don't own one, but in their favour, they DO keep the rain off,
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so does a roof! Are you getting 'off message'. Expect a call from HQ for retraining!
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AND they also protect from the Head to Head meeting, the Head to Console meeting
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it won't deal with face on impact though (unless the visors are stronger than they look
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and if fitted with a half decent intercom, enhance comms no end.
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sorry dear I couldn't hear you!
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