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21 May 2013, 17:52
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I'd be happy to buy/wear something to encourage & remind people to wear their kill cord plus have a similar sticker on the boats but wouldn't want to be too gruesome !!
At the end of the day it's to educate the less safety conscious not alienate the general public who I suggest may view the more graphic images when we're out & about !! Personally prefer the triangle with the killcord images !!
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21 May 2013, 17:54
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Small and simple front, nice size and sensible message on the rear.
You could, if you wanted, have the ribnet logo small on front breast and whatever sensible design is agreed on the rear?
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21 May 2013, 17:56
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#103
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Quote:
Originally Posted by treerat
Small and simple front, nice size and sensible message on the rear.
You could, if you wanted, have the ribnet logo small on front breast and whatever sensible design is agreed on the rear?
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Originally Posted by Rokraider
That's good!
It could be modified to
Kill Cords are like Lifejackets - Useless unless worn!
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Really like this - simple picture of a lifejacket and kill cord arranged within a triangle or stop sign shape?
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21 May 2013, 18:14
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#104
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Originally Posted by Mollers
I'm happy to take the chosen designs to the girls at Polecat and hopefully get production underway.
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Perhaps you could get the Polecat girls to pose with a KC fitted around their leg a bit like a garter if you know what I mean
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21 May 2013, 18:21
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#105
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Maybe rather than trying to shock / intimidate with the design, it could be humorous, maybe more people would want to wear one?
Strap on and give it a tug before leaving!
Or something similar?
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21 May 2013, 18:29
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Its great so many people are passionate about this, i would buy a polo shirt. I think multiple routes to get the message across is the right idea. I did contact my local marina and they are going to be puttimg some posters up, if we could convince local slipway owners then yes im sure they could also put posters up. For all you ribbers who are in marinas then tell the management to put posters up. The rnli should also highlight the issue in magazines and magazine owners should highlight the issue.
And boat magazine owners should stop showing boat adverts or articles with images of people on boats at speed with no lifejackets and no kill cords, bikinis would be fine.
As to sky or bskyb which is the company name, i used to work for them, they could potentially do a programme about boat safety but maybe the subject is a tad raw at the momemt.
All of this however probably wont stop the likes of the two hard small boats i spotted leaving poole harbor at weekend with around 5 teenagers on each boat, male and female, no life jackets worn and i didnt spot a kill cord being worn but it might have been only had a quick look.
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21 May 2013, 19:18
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#107
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I'm all for variety......many designs, same message. The wearer chooses.
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21 May 2013, 21:30
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Town: The wilds of Wiltshire
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Make: SR5.4
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Originally Posted by John Kennett
I'm not sure that it needs to be as aggressive as that. Boating is pretty safe and people rarely get hit by a prop, but we do want to give boaters a nudge to remind them to "clip it on". I think we should keep things in perspective.
That design also emphasises the prop not the kill cord which I'm not sure is particularly helpful either.
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The idea wasn't to show the design off, more that it can be done online to show what it looks like on a printed shirt as colours are limited etc.
It was just using the 1st image I had when it asked me to upload one.
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21 May 2013, 21:37
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#109
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agree..this is blue sky thinking man.
what we have is ideas and people are already being drawn to a few..........all good
I'm trying to look beyond these two second designs, like mine! and see the bigger picture, how about we now start highlighting what we've liked so far?
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21 May 2013, 21:45
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#110
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Interesting reading and I like the idea!
How about this slogan on a T shirt- KILL the ENGINE.......NOT YOU!!
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21 May 2013, 21:52
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Originally Posted by Adamn
Interesting reading and I like the idea!
How about this slogan on a T shirt- KILL the ENGINE.......NOT YOU!!
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sounds dutch
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21 May 2013, 22:11
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Originally Posted by mister p
I'm trying to look beyond these two second designs, like mine!
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Why?
Draw the eye and bang an image and a slogan into their brain quickly. Everyone remembers a visual punch in the face.
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Originally Posted by mister p
how about we now start highlighting what we've liked so far?
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Sixy's toilet door design.
I like the prop design too-it's 'in your face'. IMO the people who aren't wearing them by choice need it ramming home, not gently reminding.
We aren't preaching to the converted.
Anyone remember this?:-
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21 May 2013, 22:16
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#113
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A few tweeks and we're cool
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21 May 2013, 22:21
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I think that's too subtle for a moron to understand, if you get my drift?
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21 May 2013, 22:22
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Nos, the cobra clip ( use it or lose it) has a prop in there if you look. I can make it more apparent.
Also the cord follows the outline of a prop and also the track of an out-of-control boat.
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21 May 2013, 22:25
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Personally I don't think it works. Use it or lose it? Too oblique in my opinion. Like the art work though. Reminds me of a snake.
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21 May 2013, 22:26
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Back to the drawing board, it was never going to be easy.........you like the prop.
Others like "clip".
More thinking.
The noose was a good one! "wear the right cord"
Agree with some, happiness is good........so less blood and flesh. But maybe a selection and not just one design?
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21 May 2013, 22:27
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#118
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If the Lifejacket reference could be included, the RNLI might get behind it and with their resources and buying power, the shirts could be reasonably priced?
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21 May 2013, 22:35
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Originally Posted by Rokraider
Personally I don't think it works. Use it or lose it? Too oblique in my opinion. Like the art work though. Reminds me of a snake.
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Cool.....was a cobra.......snakey, coily thing.
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21 May 2013, 22:47
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It's a good, subtle design. I just don't think subtle will work.
I think we're looking at targetting 2 types of people.
1) the kind of person who'd own a jetski and beat up slipways if they hadn't bought a rib
2)The sort of person who probably drives everywhere at 40mph because their situational awareness is so bad they don't understand what they're doing.
Anyone who falls into the 'I sometimes forget' category-or anything between 1 and 2- is going to understand. They might not like the way message is delivered, but nobody has the right to like everything.
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