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Old 11 September 2005, 20:23   #1
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Killcord Postioning?

Just wondering if there is a postion or placement of the killcord that the RYA recommends?
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Hi Michae1,

Just wondering, are you looking for an "RYA official" opinion, or the opinions of members of RIB.net?
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I am presuming you mean where do you install it on your person in which case the answer is around yuor leg , I find anywhere else can get wrapped
around th steereing wheel.
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killcords again

Was looking for the RYA stance and the reasoning behind it. Lets presume the killcord is around your leg, its surely possible to fall out of the Rib and get your foot stuck leaving you hanging out of the edge of the boat with it still driving forwards, where as if it was on your chest the engine would have cut out allowing you time to get back into the boat. Have done a reasonable amount of coaching and never had a problem with the kill cord getting in the way?
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possible to fall out of the Rib and get your foot stuck leaving you hanging out of the edge of the boat...
Not sure what your foot's going to get stuck on (except for a footstrap) and you should be able to manually pull the cord in the scenario you've described. HTH!
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I'm with Rogue Wave on this one. On my Vipermax there is an underside to the consol. The killcord is under there, it fits around the leg perfectly or clips to the shorts. A heap turns on the steering wheel with it around the wrist results in a wound-up mess.
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I'm with rogue wave too.

Ive had the cord wrap around the wheel and now use the round the leg method.
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Kill cords

Yep, round the foot is the best place.
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Old 11 September 2005, 21:56   #10
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we always put em round the leg but years ago I was in a boat belonging to a certain search and rescue facility, who had better remain nameless to save the embarresment, when the helmsman left the seat (and flung a crewman into the water) on a tight turn which was probably meant to impress! I was on the back pod of the rib and suddenly found I was looking at the horizon instead of the helms back! The engine was still churning away as he had fallen to port with the kill switch on the stbd but he was still straddling the seat, albeit with his head on the port tube. I reached forward and pulled the chord to stop the thing. But around the wrist is a pain as you end up tied to the wheel. I like to have a good strong split ring on the buoyancy aid and clip into that but I dont think the RYA like that as one boat went away on its own somewhere a couple of years back when the cord was allegedly clipped to a l/jkt but came off
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I think that where ever it's attached freak accidents can occur. Personally, I'm no fan of "split rings!"
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Kill Cords

Below is an article I wrote for a magazine over here in Ireland on the subject. This would represent the Irish Sailing Association (ISA) position on Kill Cords.

Kill Cords Save Lives
One of the more sobering aspects of my job is the investigation of accidents involving small and fast craft. Generally I am acting as an expert witness for the courts. Very often, these accidents have left the victims severely injured.

In almost every serious powerboat accident that I have studied, death or injury could have been prevented in nearly every case if the driver had worn a Life Jacket and a Kill Cord.

The benefits of life jackets are fairly apparent to all but it constantly amazes me how few people seem to realise that wearing Kill Cords on fast or open boats does save lives. Even the Department of the Marine here in Ireland seem to have ignored the value of Kill Cords within their new and welcome Fast Water Craft safety legislation.

Check out the ads in many boating magazines today. Glamorous pictures of open boats being driven with not a life jacket in sight and the kill cord flapping loosely from the throttle box

A Kill Cord or Safety Lanyard is the small red lead that connects the driver to a switch located on the engine or sometimes the dashboard of the boat. The general idea is that if the driver gets knocked overboard, then the lanyard comes with him closing the electric switch that the engine end of the cord was attached to .The closed switch grounds the ignition and immediately stops the engine.

A typical accident happens as follows. The inexperienced or untrained powerboat driver is travelling too fast for the sea conditions. He hits a wave hard and gets flicked out of the boat. With no kill cord connected to the driver and no hand on the wheel, the boat continues under power. The boat then circles around at speed in ever decreasing circles until it invariably hits the driver in the water with horrific results.

If the driver had been wearing a kill cord and life jacket, then the engine would have stalled as soon as he fell out. His life jacket would deploy allowing him to swim the few metres back to reboard the boat and consider some revised driving practices!

I hope that we have convinced you to always wear a kill cord, so how about some Professional Tips!

Connect your Kill Cord around your leg or to your life jacket harness rather than to your wrist. Kill cords have been known to slip off of wet wrists and also, when worn on the wrist can get tangled in throttles etc. It is far better to wear it around your thigh or knee so that there is no way that you are coming out of the boat without the kill cord coming with you. You can also attach it to your lifejacket harness. But be sure that it is attached to secure webbing or a lifting loop rather than a flimsy plastic buckle, which might give way as you are chucked out.

Check your kill cord regularly. Check it for signs of cuts, nicks or fraying and give it a good pull from either end. Check frequently that it is working by removing it while the engine is idling. It should immediately stop the engine. If it doesn’t, have the engine checked by a specialist before using it.

When leaving the boat, bring the kill cord with you. As well as being an anti theft measure, it also ensures that you must refit the kill cord before you can restart the engine. It is common enough for some one climbing aboard a boat with a connected kill cord hanging loose to forget to attach it to them selves before driving away. Our Instructors here in Lough Ree Power Boat School generally leave the kill cord attached to their leg and shove the engine end into their trouser pocket when going in for lunch. If you have to take off the kill cord while the engine is still running but in neutral, wrap the driver end of the cord around the steering wheel so that there is no way you can accidentally drive off with re-attaching the kill cord to your leg.

Never attach or tie the kill cord to the ignition key. Ignition keys generally cannot be removed while in the on position. I have seen at least one case where a faller was being towed through the water by his kill cord still firmly attached to the ignition switch.

Check that your Kill Cord is genuine. Within the last year it has come to my attention that many reputable chandlers have been innocently selling dodgy or spurious kill cords. A true kill cord is made with a strong wire or string core, which is then coated with a red plastic protective cover. Spring clips and fastenings should be strong and made from metal. The dodgy or spurious Kill cords are pure plastic with no core and the clips are usually made of plastic. Very often these spurious cords fail by merely being pulled off of the engine or throttle box.

Carry a spare kill cord in your toolbox. Kill cords sink so it pays to have a spare aboard just in case. The spare can also be used by another qualified driver to save you a swim back to the boat if you have been silly enough to take a dive. Many of the Professional Boat Squads we train equip every qualified Coxswain aboard with a personal kill cord allowing some one else to quickly regain the helm after an accident.


So there you have it. If you want to make your powerboating safer and more enjoyable:

• Get professional training at an Irish Sailing Association recognised Powerboat School such as Lough Ree Power Boat School.

• Drive safely and responsibly.

• Always wear a Kill Cord and Life jacket

• Always drive with one hand on the throttle so that you can you can kill the power before something goes wrong

• And finally Have Fun !


Stuart McNamara

Stuart is the owner of Lough Ree Power Boat School www.powerboat.org at Hodson Bay in Athlone. He is also the Irish Sailing Associations National Motorboat and Powerboat Trainer. He can be contacted at consultancy@powerboat.org

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Old 12 September 2005, 09:18   #13
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Was looking for the RYA stance and the reasoning behind it. Lets presume the killcord is around your leg, its surely possible to fall out of the Rib and get your foot stuck leaving you hanging out of the edge of the boat with it still driving forwards, where as if it was on your chest the engine would have cut out allowing you time to get back into the boat. Have done a reasonable amount of coaching and never had a problem with the kill cord getting in the way?
let me know your views
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And the sky could always fall on your head! just to make matters worse!

I think you'd be better seeking the RNLI's position on where to where to fit your killchord than the RYA. I think they have an awful lot more experiance of running RIBS.

I used to clip my lifejacket on to the Killchord. but found that sometimes fould the wheel, however I am about 35 kilos lighter knowadays so it might not happen so easily.

I do regrettably have a lot of experience in coming out of Ribs at fairly high speed
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Hi Mike,

Did not realise you were posting on this site!!

I depends what boat your putting this killcord on. Small 3.10 rescue boats are a problems cause they can be too long and you can go over the top of the transom without the cord pulling out.

Each boat is different depnding on how or where it is fitted.

Keep the kill cord as short as practical andf test it regularly.

If you want I've got some RYA stickers from James Stevens reminding the helm to use the killcord all the time, I`ll bring them to Nottingham for the Team Racing.

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One thing that maybe useful is to carry a spare where someone can see it. Just incase the person (helm) falls in. How many engines will work without one if its an emergency. Its worth someone else knowing how to get the engine started i suppose is my point
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well according to my Atlantic helm who is sat here there is no kill cord on an Atlantic- and daughter says none on a "D" class either!
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Talking of Ireland and legislation - it would seem to me FAR more sensible to have made a law making kill cords compulsory rather than lifejackets. If you don't wear a lifejacket you will only kill yourself(personal choice) but without a kill cord you could kill others!!!
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well according to my Atlantic helm who is sat here there is no kill cord on an Atlantic- and daughter says none on a "D" class either!
I dunno! wherever you put it just remember to wear it
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As you see from the start of the article, I absolutely agree ...i.e Both !!

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Talking of Ireland and legislation - it would seem to me FAR more sensible to have made a law making kill cords compulsory rather than lifejackets. If you don't wear a lifejacket you will only kill yourself(personal choice) but without a kill cord you could kill others!!!
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I don't agree with the lifejacket law though - if they had made it law for kill cords fair enough but I think wearing a lifejacket should come down to personal choice!!! The ONLY person you will hurt is yourself!!!
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