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18 January 2011, 11:56
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Latest X-Craft X8.0
This RIB will be exhibited on the Dusseldorf boatshow, BOOT 2011.
Hope you like it.
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18 January 2011, 11:58
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18 January 2011, 13:48
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Country: UK - England
Town: swanwick/hamble
Boat name: stormchaser
Make: custom rib
Length: 8m +
Engine: inboard/diesel
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that's a nice looking boat, novel rear seat, hope you take this constructively, not much storage space
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18 January 2011, 15:34
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Country: UK - England
Town: Hamble
Boat name: Worth the wait
Make: Parker
Length: 7m +
Engine: Outboard
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Yet again, a stunning boat and I still yearn for your shock seats.
The back support on the rear bench seat looks very low (more of a bum support). Having experienced the performance of your designs, it could result in someone ending up in the engine well??
Steve
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19 January 2011, 16:02
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we kept the rear bench seat very low because the customer wants to have easy acces to the transom and also have a bench for 4 people. so this is the result. We can make the back rest as high as the client wants. Every thing is custom build. We have a lot of storage in the steering console. With the optional sundeck in the front you will have a lot more.In this RIB we also made a big custom made bean bag for the children.
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19 January 2011, 18:04
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Country: UK - England
Town: New Milton
Boat name: Jianna
Make: Osprey
Length: 6m +
Engine: 200 E-TEC
MMSI: 235076954
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Stunning looking boat, pity the wheel is on the wrong side
I cannot tell whether the web site has any pricing info or not, can you give an idea of prices?
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20 January 2011, 21:12
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Hi Ian
I sent you a pm.
regards,
Niels
ps. We also mount the wheel on the other side for uk customers.
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20 January 2011, 21:23
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Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Glasgow
Boat name: stramash
Make: Tornado
Length: 5m +
Engine: Etec 90
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Stunning looking boat, pity the wheel is on the wrong side
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Lol my thoughts too then I remembered my last '8' was a left hooker too .... and it was due to the Verado controls IIRC and where the trim switch is on the thumb depending on your ' handidness'
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20 January 2011, 21:54
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Sweet Rib.
What difference does the position of the helm make?
I can drink with either hand and I'm damn sure I can work a throttle with my right hand too.
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20 January 2011, 23:02
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Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Glasgow
Boat name: stramash
Make: Tornado
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Originally Posted by willk
I can work a throttle with my right hand
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.. oh one more post and were out
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20 January 2011, 23:08
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Country: UK - England
Town: Dinard, Brittany
Boat name: Into the Red
Make: Osprey Vipermax
Length: 7m +
Engine: Evinrude E-tec 250HO
MMSI: 235 076 114
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By my counting that's four off topic posts. Please refrain from de-railing this subject any further or else it will be split and bildged.
For any further information on which side to mount the throttle, please see here.
Many thanks for your comprehension in this matter
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21 January 2011, 07:17
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Country: UK - England
Town: New Milton
Boat name: Jianna
Make: Osprey
Length: 6m +
Engine: 200 E-TEC
MMSI: 235076954
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Helm - Port or Starboard??
Now I am not suggesting that us brits have it right and most everyone else has got it wrong, but what about prop torque
Oh, and thanks Oliver, looks like I am now on the tall ones black list
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21 January 2011, 13:42
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Country: Norway
Town: Norway/Oslo
Make: Humber
Length: 6m +
Engine: Suzuki
Join Date: Nov 2005
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Nice. But the steering wheel looks like something from a old am-car.
BB
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21 January 2011, 15:28
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Country: UK - England
Town: Hamble
Boat name: Worth the wait
Make: Parker
Length: 7m +
Engine: Outboard
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Dont knock it until you try it! My Parker is a left hooker and it feels very natural. As a right handed person, having the throttles in my right hand feels better, and I would maintain that I have a better touch/balance using the dominant hand. Very important when you have fly-by-wire and less resistance
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21 January 2011, 16:42
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Country: UK - England
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Make: Osprey
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Originally Posted by 250kts
Dont knock it until you try it! My Parker is a left hooker and it feels very natural. As a right handed person, having the throttles in my right hand feels better, and I would maintain that I have a better touch/balance using the dominant hand. Very important when you have fly-by-wire and less resistance
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Yes Steve, I have tried it. Both a left hand helm position and also single consoles with a right hand throttle. I agree with you, it does feel more natural. That was not really what I was aiming at though - rather weight distribution, which for completely selfish reasons is a subject that I am interested in at the moment - and no, I am not talking about dieting, rather exactly the opposite
Everyone that I have talked to on the subject say that they try to put all the weight; batteries etc. to the starboard side of the boat (for a single RH prop) to counteract prop torque. What I would like to know is - how important a factor is it? Seems from what our continental friends do (all the weight associated with the helm position on the port side) it does not matter at all. Is motor offset the dominant/only factor required to counteract prop torque? Does it vary from hull to hull?
Sorry to hi-jack your thread Niels; would you like to comment?
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21 January 2011, 16:54
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Town: Hamble
Boat name: Worth the wait
Make: Parker
Length: 7m +
Engine: Outboard
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Ian, when you have as much weight in the boat as we have, a battery or two makes little difference in the set-up, but Parker kindly put one at either side anyway!
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21 January 2011, 18:34
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Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Glasgow
Boat name: stramash
Make: Tornado
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Engine: Etec 90
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Originally Posted by Bigmuz7
and it was due to the Verado controls IIRC and where the trim switch is on the thumb depending on your ' handidness'
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Ok I remember now .. the top mount Verado throttle only came in one style at the time and only one direction operation and couldnt be reversed (might have changed now) ... so it meant that if the helm was on the right .. you would have to use your little finger to operate the trim,(as it would still be in the middle) which I didnt fancy doing so the helm had to be on the port side,.. and there wasnt enough space to put the throttle on the right, and fit everything else on the console
I didnt really like it though, because at 16 odd stone , I was usually heavier than my crew/buddy and what with the torque, the boat always canted to port, unless I found a little magic spot on the trim, but it was easier to run with ballast as changing sea conditions meant you would loose the sweet spot as soon as you found it.
The problem is really that as the helmsman you cannot move, your crew you can try to distribute, but if they wernt big enough you were still stuck with the problem
On balance I probably wouldn't get a left handed helm again because of that experience, and most particularly, where its a great big single. I was ready to go down the trim tab route to correct it, it was so bad, IIRC some of the D section on the tube started to come adrift due to the pounding the port tube was taking at the stern.. the engine had the correct off set too.
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21 January 2011, 21:38
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thanks for all the positive reactions! lol.
and yes it is important with a fast hull to put weight on the starboardside.
We mount the engine to starboard depending on the weight of the owner.
for me it is about 50cm. lol
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21 January 2011, 21:48
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Country: UK - Scotland
Town: scotland
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Length: 6m +
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That's one of the best RIB / Engine packages i've seen for a while. well done
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21 January 2011, 22:27
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thank you very much.
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