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21 April 2006, 17:08
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Country: UK - Wales
Town: swansea
Boat name: Too Blue
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Several things before I realised that having the money to patent is one thing - having the moeny to fight them is quite different.
One in particular was a new kind of games controller - we did quite well with it but just couldn't get the backing we needed despite healthy orders.
The area manager for Midland bank - now HSBC - told me that computer games "are a passing fad" and would never catch on!!! That was in 1991.
Was still in Uni then.
Was quite a job getting injection moulds made etc etc - would have been much easier now with info off the net.
Others I will remain quiet about because I may still have use for them.
On another note patenting is not always a good idea because your idea immediately become public for anyone to copy.
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21 April 2006, 17:08
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Reading, Hants
Boat name: Juicy
Make: Sealine F43
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Originally Posted by Jonny Fuller
I woz gonna ask that
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great minds think alike.......in more ways than one!
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21 April 2006, 17:15
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exspyrd trayd membir
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Town: inn wiliks hed
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Originally Posted by MadMat
I find it shocking and deeply disappointing that none of you give a shit about this
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soe doo iy. shokkin an disapoyntin. wot iz de wurld cumin too.
i evun sorr sum nobbur woshin iz ardbote wiv a chyneeze coppy ov a honnder jeneraytor de uvver daiy
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Originally Posted by Hugh Jardon
and that is what i have done....:
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i doo ope dat dis duzunt giv yew sum sleapliss nites butt dem ospriys woz splasht fromm a flecher
gaRf
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21 April 2006, 17:20
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Member
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Town: swansea
Boat name: Too Blue
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As usual Garfish you sum it up perfectly!!!
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21 April 2006, 17:33
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Make: extreme 24
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me to, hows the hand/finger
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21 April 2006, 17:42
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Country: UK - England
Town: Reading, Hants
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Originally Posted by The Garfish
i doo ope dat dis duzunt giv yew sum sleapliss nites butt dem ospriys woz splasht fromm a flecher
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Damn and I have been sleeping quite well recently as well........
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21 April 2006, 18:03
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Quote:
Originally Posted by carly baby
me to, hows the hand/finger
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If you mean me the stiches are out now - healing nicely - was very lucky - could have lost my fingers and being right handed it made life VERY difficult.
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21 April 2006, 18:09
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21 April 2006, 18:10
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Reading, Hants
Boat name: Juicy
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Originally Posted by codprawn
If you mean me the stiches are out now - healing nicely - was very lucky - could have lost my fingers and being right handed it made life VERY difficult.
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Must have killed your sex life!!
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21 April 2006, 18:48
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Hampshire
Boat name: Tornado
Make: Nimbus Nova
Length: 7m +
Engine: Mercury 115hp
Join Date: Jun 2005
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Just to get some context - if Leeway had asked permission to use the Phantom hull, how much would it have cost/would he have been given the go ahead?
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21 April 2006, 21:17
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Town: scotland
Boat name: Leviathan
Make: Phantom
Length: 8m +
Engine: GM Diesels
Join Date: Jan 2003
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Originally Posted by donutsina911
Just to get some context - if Leeway had asked permission to use the Phantom hull, how much would it have cost/would he have been given the go ahead?
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Whilst I obviously can't speak for the current owner of the rights to the P18 (Clive Jones), I would think yes, as they'd be fully aware that a 'no' could mean it getting illegally splashed anyway, and no money at all, or control over it's quality.
As for the price, again, I'd guess at mebbe 200 quid per unit sold. Not really a fortune in the scheme of things, and as Matt said, you can then use the designers good name as part of your sales pitch.
I rather doubt mind you, that any designer would want their name on a hull with a hook in it (except apparently Leeway), so that would have to have been done correctly. So all in all, it would have been a better job eh.
Some people are just too greedy to see this sense tho'.
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21 April 2006, 23:33
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Now back to being Mollers!
Country: UK - England
Town: Arundel
Boat name: Mike Bravo 1
Make: Scorp
Length: 9m +
Engine: Yanmar 300
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Originally Posted by The Garfish
i doo ope dat dis duzunt giv yew sum sleapliss nites butt dem ospriys woz splasht fromm a flecher
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Yep, you're dead right, and a Garfish is a splash of a Gurnard, but with much smaller genitals!!
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22 April 2006, 08:13
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Reading, Hants
Boat name: Juicy
Make: Sealine F43
Length: 10m +
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Originally Posted by Alice
Yep, you're dead right, and a Garfish is a splash of a Gurnard, but with much smaller genitals!!
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love it, poor garfie, what will mrs garfie say!
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22 April 2006, 11:11
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Member
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Town: Punta gorda Fl.
Boat name: War Machine
Make: Falcon U.S.A.
Length: 9m +
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Originally Posted by Hugh Jardon
Must have killed your sex life!!
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You guys are terrible!!! but I like it!
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22 April 2006, 13:57
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Reading, Hants
Boat name: Juicy
Make: Sealine F43
Length: 10m +
Engine: 2 x 370hp
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pathalla
You guys are terrible!!! but I like it!
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24 April 2006, 13:45
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: I.O.W
Boat name: Leeway
Make: leeway 730
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Engine: 250hp = 73mph :0)
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pics attached of the latest rib out of the mould and you can see there is no so called hook??
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24 April 2006, 14:21
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Over here
Boat name: S.S. Nobstick
Make: Three Wise Monkeys
Length: 3m +
Engine: 44lbs of thrust....
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LeewayComposite
pics attached of the latest rib out of the mould and you can see there is no so called hook??
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So the "design feature" which you were proud of has " disappeared?
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Originally Posted by LeewayComposite
……. you would find it on both sides. as it was designed and built to be like it.
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..and…
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Originally Posted by LeewayComposite
oh i see what you are refering to.. they are all like that thats the way we
designed it... makes a better rough conditions hull………
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So the boat in the picture must have been a manufacturing fault then. I assume you are going to contact Hartley and make amends then?
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24 April 2006, 14:31
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: I.O.W
Boat name: Leeway
Make: leeway 730
Length: 7m +
Engine: 250hp = 73mph :0)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jono
So the "design feature" which you were proud of has " disappeared?
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not quite, as there is a slight taper on both side if you actuly look at the pics instead of just trying to find faults in all that i say...
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jono
So the boat in the picture must have been a manufacturing fault then.
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no as all ribs come from the same mould..
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Originally Posted by Jono
I assume you are going to contact Hartley and make amends then?
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no as the boat is fine.
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24 April 2006, 14:46
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#139
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: I.O.W
Boat name: Leeway
Make: leeway 730
Length: 7m +
Engine: 250hp = 73mph :0)
Join Date: Jan 2005
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jono
So the boat in the picture must have been a manufacturing fault then. I assume you are going to contact Hartley and make amends then?
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If the rib in question (wich i might add the customer is more than happy with) had a fault i would more than happly replace it under warenty. but as it happens there are no problems, so the rib will not be replaced..
what do you do for a living??
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24 April 2006, 17:06
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#140
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Member
Country: USA
Town: boston
Boat name: Miss bad 61
Make: Crapko, AKA Mako
Length: 5m +
Engine: OMC Mod50
Join Date: Apr 2006
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just cuz it came out of a good mold don't mean anything, thare is still plenty to mess it up, like over kickin the glass, pullin it to early, and so on.
not sayin that is the case hear, but just cuz the mold is nice don't mean thats how the hulls guna be, it is however a better bet than a crapy mold.
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