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25 April 2006, 04:25
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Member
Country: USA
Town: Punta gorda Fl.
Boat name: War Machine
Make: Falcon U.S.A.
Length: 9m +
Engine: twin 250 Yamaha
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 936
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Maybe a boat was pulled that was not quite cured, resins, hardeners and temperatures as well as humidity adds up to quite a few variables and the uncured boat ends up with a hook. Large boat manufacturers make mistakes building hulls, anyone can, a deformed boat does not necessarily mean a bad mold or builder... not a comment pro or con on this thread, just a comment.
Echoing Fast Fred's comments really. Did I say COMMENT enough times?
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25 April 2006, 07:49
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#142
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Essex/Vendee
Boat name: shockwave,Voluntry 2
Make: Pac 22/ searider5.4
Length: 6m +
Engine: 180hp turbo,yam 90
Join Date: Nov 2004
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My hope would be that leeway is making his boats with out the hook as he is now saying but unfortunately the angle of the photo,s he has given will not show this So is this more Rubbish that we ribsters are given.Please dont misinterprit any motive i have I have never met spoken or had any dealings with leeway the only thing a person gets fed up with is being DONE.This thread i know to some is boring but their are Princibles here and this Forum is here for our information .The name and shame thread Thats started should be used with caution as a reputation can be shattered .so sort the quality out Leeway and get people off your back or pack up
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25 April 2006, 08:11
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#143
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Over here
Boat name: S.S. Nobstick
Make: Three Wise Monkeys
Length: 3m +
Engine: 44lbs of thrust....
Join Date: Nov 2003
Posts: 2,127
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Originally Posted by LeewayComposite
If the rib in question (wich i might add the customer is more than happy with) had a fault i would more than happly replace it under warenty. but as it happens there are no problems, so the rib will not be replaced..
what do you do for a living??
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Excellent response. So, if the customer wants to replace his boat, because it is well hooked on the port side and not the starboard, you will agree to replace the boat? I assume that this means you will put new tubes on a new hull and re rig his Opti, Etc. If for arguments sake he was worried that the time you take to do this would impact his boating season, I presume you wouldn’t have an issue with doing it at the end of the season to minimise his loss?
My Job? Oh… I’m a professional tea maker and phone answerer…..
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25 April 2006, 08:38
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#144
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Surbiton,Gt London
Length: 5m +
Join Date: Nov 2003
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Originally Posted by Jono
My Job? Oh… I’m a professional tea maker and phone answerer…..
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So you have stopped the Charter assassin work, please update profile and i ll have to find another
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25 April 2006, 09:28
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#145
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: I.O.W
Boat name: Leeway
Make: leeway 730
Length: 7m +
Engine: 250hp = 73mph :0)
Join Date: Jan 2005
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Originally Posted by fast fred
just cuz it came out of a good mold don't mean anything, thare is still plenty to mess it up, like over kickin the glass, pullin it to early, and so on.
not sayin that is the case hear, but just cuz the mold is nice don't mean thats how the hulls guna be, it is however a better bet than a crapy mold.
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just to let you know the only thing that could course a bent boat (wich this boat is not) from factory is pulling early.........
due to the fact it takes 2 weeks to make the hull before release from mould i could never have that problem.
i have tested the boat in question and im happy to say it meets all the standards and is not "hooked" as you call it.
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25 April 2006, 09:42
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#146
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: I.O.W
Boat name: Leeway
Make: leeway 730
Length: 7m +
Engine: 250hp = 73mph :0)
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 345
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Originally Posted by no fear
The name and shame thread Thats started should be used with caution as a reputation can be shattered .
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its not hard to take someone to court for=
"A defamation action, either for libel or for slander, is the legal claim that an individual can bring to protect his or her reputation. "
I have had an apointment with my solicitor. all i have to do is print off some of the words writen on this site and i have a clear cut case..
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Originally Posted by no fear
so sort the quality out Leeway and get people off your back or pack up
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what do you know about my quality?? when have you seen my work?? just because my competition and people i have p#ssed off come on her and slag me down does not meen my quality is poor. come and look for your self.. i have had 100% satisfaction from all my customers.
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25 April 2006, 09:48
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#147
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: I.O.W
Boat name: Leeway
Make: leeway 730
Length: 7m +
Engine: 250hp = 73mph :0)
Join Date: Jan 2005
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Originally Posted by Jono
My Job? Oh… I’m a professional tea maker and phone answerer…..
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so you only try to give bad advise and "try" to close small british companys down in your spare time?
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25 April 2006, 09:55
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#148
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Over here
Boat name: S.S. Nobstick
Make: Three Wise Monkeys
Length: 3m +
Engine: 44lbs of thrust....
Join Date: Nov 2003
Posts: 2,127
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Originally Posted by LeewayComposite
its not hard to take someone to court for=
"A defamation action, either for libel or for slander, is the legal claim that an individual can bring to protect his or her reputation. "
I have had an apointment with my solicitor. all i have to do is print off some of the words writen on this site and i have a clear cut case..
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Yeah, right.... Good luck. Who was the last numpty to make threats about Solicitors? Ah yes… Good old Rupert Bonham-Smith….
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Originally Posted by LeewayComposite
just to let you know the only thing that could course a bent boat (wich this boat is not) from factory is pulling early.........
due to the fact it takes 2 weeks to make the hull before release from mould i could never have that problem.
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So this hull pictured here... is it still in the mould and is it complete with stringers, frames Etc?
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Originally Posted by LeewayComposite
i have tested the boat in question and im happy to say it meets all the standards and is not "hooked" as you call it.
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What standards are those? What difference do you accept between port and starboard running surfaces?
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25 April 2006, 10:15
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#149
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: I.O.W
Boat name: Leeway
Make: leeway 730
Length: 7m +
Engine: 250hp = 73mph :0)
Join Date: Jan 2005
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I am in this business making ribs as i enjoy ribbing and to keep me in work. if i was in this for greed thinking i would be rich you are mistaken as check my prices i make nothing on my boats.
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25 April 2006, 10:29
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#150
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: I.O.W
Boat name: Leeway
Make: leeway 730
Length: 7m +
Engine: 250hp = 73mph :0)
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 345
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jono
Yeah, right.... Good luck. Who was the last numpty to make threats about Solicitors? Ah yes… Good old Rupert Bonham-Smith….
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its not hard to take defamation to court as the evidence is viewable to all in wrighting, theres nothing to despute.....
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Originally Posted by Jono
So this hull pictured here... is it still in the mould and is it complete with stringers, frames Etc?
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yes is in the mould. no it is not complete there are more transverse framework to go in.
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Originally Posted by Jono
What standards are those? What difference do you accept between port and starboard running surfaces?
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all our ribs are built to the full ISO standards to coplie with the RCD to get full CE rating.... there might be slight differance as the plug was made by hand.....
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25 April 2006, 10:34
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#151
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Over here
Boat name: S.S. Nobstick
Make: Three Wise Monkeys
Length: 3m +
Engine: 44lbs of thrust....
Join Date: Nov 2003
Posts: 2,127
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LeewayComposite
its not hard to take defamation to court as the evidence is viewable to all in wrighting, theres nothing to despute.....
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Cobblers....
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25 April 2006, 10:36
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#152
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Over here
Boat name: S.S. Nobstick
Make: Three Wise Monkeys
Length: 3m +
Engine: 44lbs of thrust....
Join Date: Nov 2003
Posts: 2,127
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LeewayComposite
I am in this business making ribs as i enjoy ribbing and to keep me in work. if i was in this for greed thinking i would be rich you are mistaken as check my prices i make nothing on my boats.
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…and we need more enterprising boat builders based in this country. So why not contact the producers of the hull that your boat (s) originate from, offer to pay them a nominal royalty, which on the scale of boat prices isn’t that much, then push that as a “plus” side? The hulls are well known for their performance and that wouldn’t hurt, would it?
If, by some small chance, you have designed a hull your self and I’m sorry, but I can’t envisage that from your responses, then shout it from the roof tops.. show your work off. Show the design stage, the plug/buck and explain the design. I, for one, would applaud you as that sort of endeavour is well beyond my capability.
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25 April 2006, 11:05
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#153
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: I.O.W
Boat name: Leeway
Make: leeway 730
Length: 7m +
Engine: 250hp = 73mph :0)
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 345
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jono
…and we need more enterprising boat builders based in this country. So why not contact the producers of the hull that your boat (s) originate from, offer to pay them a nominal royalty, which on the scale of boat prices isn’t that much, then push that as a “plus” side? The hulls are well known for their performance and that wouldn’t hurt, would it?
If, by some small chance, you have designed a hull your self and I’m sorry, but I can’t envisage that from your responses, then shout it from the roof tops.. show your work off. Show the design stage, the plug/buck and explain the design. I, for one, would applaud you as that sort of endeavour is well beyond my capability.
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have you asked all the other rib builders in this country if they can pay for the origin of there plaining hull design?? i have evidence my hull is unique and is my design, I can produce evidence if i really need to and will in a court of law if need be. is that a decision for you? I think not so do us all a favor and keep your bad advise to yourself.
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25 April 2006, 11:09
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#154
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: I.O.W
Boat name: Leeway
Make: leeway 730
Length: 7m +
Engine: 250hp = 73mph :0)
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 345
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I have paid to join this forum for people like you to use jono...
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25 April 2006, 11:25
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#155
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: scotland
Boat name: Leviathan
Make: Phantom
Length: 8m +
Engine: GM Diesels
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 1,437
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LeewayComposite
I have paid to join this forum for people like you to use jono...
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What on earth is that supposed to mean?
You paid to join the forum to try and sell ya botes! don't kid yaself, and definitey don't try and kid anyone else (anymore)
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25 April 2006, 11:34
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#156
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Over here
Boat name: S.S. Nobstick
Make: Three Wise Monkeys
Length: 3m +
Engine: 44lbs of thrust....
Join Date: Nov 2003
Posts: 2,127
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LeewayComposite
have you asked all the other rib builders in this country if they can pay for the origin of there plaining hull design?? i have evidence my hull is unique and is my design, I can produce evidence if i really need to and will in a court of law if need be. is that a decision for you? I think not so do us all a favor and keep your bad advise to yourself.
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Why would I need to do that ? I don’t see other builders on here making high claims? Don’t be so childish and make threats of Court/Solicitors and the like. I’ve been in more Courtrooms on more occasions than you’ve had hot dinners…..
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Originally Posted by LeewayComposite
I have paid to join this forum for people like you to use jono...
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People "like me" ? Oh, no Lee... I think you'll find I'm unique.... ..but I think you "paid to join" this forum to sell your wares and not some altruistic motive.
Anyways… since other folks must be bored witless with this thread…and I need to go and make the tea.. I’ll concede that you will never see where the likes of FGT and I are coming from so please feel free to have the last word…
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25 April 2006, 11:35
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#157
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: I.O.W
Boat name: Leeway
Make: leeway 730
Length: 7m +
Engine: 250hp = 73mph :0)
Join Date: Jan 2005
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Originally Posted by Jonny Fuller
What on earth is that supposed to mean?
You paid to join the forum to try and sell ya botes! don't kid yaself, and definitey don't try and kid anyone else (anymore)
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well all i'll say is, if people didnt pay like me then the site would not be as good. needs to have funds..or am i wrong?? i know you like an argument
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25 April 2006, 11:40
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#158
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Devon
Boat name: White Ice
Make: Ranieri
Length: 5m +
Engine: Suzuki 115hp
Join Date: Jul 2002
Posts: 5,015
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LeewayComposite
.... there might be slight differance as the plug was made by hand.....
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Any chance of a peep at this hand-built plug? Did you make one plug for all the different sizes you make/are planning to make?
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25 April 2006, 11:44
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#159
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: I.O.W
Boat name: Leeway
Make: leeway 730
Length: 7m +
Engine: 250hp = 73mph :0)
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 345
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jono
Why would I need to do that ? I don’t see other builders on here making high claims? Don’t be so childish and make threats of Court/Solicitors and the like. I’ve been in more Courtrooms on more occasions than you’ve had hot dinners…..
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i have lots to say on that but really dont need to stoop so low...
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jono
People "like me" ? Oh, no Lee... I think you'll find I'm unique.... ..but I think you "paid to join" this forum to sell your wares and not some altruistic motive.
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like i said i may be wrong but im think the site needs funds to be as good as it is and keep it going.....
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Originally Posted by Jono
Anyways… since other folks must be bored witless with this thread…and I need to go and make the tea.. I’ll concede that you will never see where the likes of FGT and I are coming from so please feel free to have the last word…
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thankyou.. i'll have the last word as it is my living at stake.... and just to say again all my customers are very happy with there ribs and the quality is very high. at the prices i am charging im giving things away...
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25 April 2006, 11:50
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#160
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: I.O.W
Boat name: Leeway
Make: leeway 730
Length: 7m +
Engine: 250hp = 73mph :0)
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 345
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Richard B
Any chance of a peep at this hand-built plug? Did you make one plug for all the different sizes you make/are planning to make?
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no sorry.......need to keep the advitising going...
we have had a plug made for the 6.3 and a differant plug made for the 7.3 and 8.3. so we have had two plugs made so fare. we have a differant plug being made for the 9.3 and talks for a bigger plug that might happen.
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