Lifebuoy

Leapy · 08 May 2009, 15:37

After witnessing a MOB over Easter (recovered safely) we have invested in a couple of THESE. They don't come with instructions

but I guess it's fairly clear what you do with it...release it and chuck it...

...apart from...what's the 2m of rope around the horseshoe for?

Does the poor MOB use this to secure the lifebuoy to himself/herself? Or what?

jambo · 08 May 2009, 16:54

Hi yes i have one of these and thankfully I have not had to use it in ernest!! The rope around it is a grab plus you can attach your throw line to it so you do not loose it in a windy day, hope this helps. Sorry to say but i thought the price was bit steep.

J

jyasaki · 08 May 2009, 17:21

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Originally Posted by Leapy

apart from...what's the 2m of rope around the horseshoe for?

Grab handle, I think. When cold, it would easier to maintain a grip on the rope than the lump of foam, especially in waves. The extra length would be a retrieval device after someone missed with the initial toss.

jky

Leapy · 08 May 2009, 18:45

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Originally Posted by jambo

Sorry to say but i thought the price was bit steep.

J

So did I, so I shopped around and found them much cheaper and still branded as Ocean Safety

Leapy · 08 May 2009, 18:54

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Originally Posted by jyasaki

Grab handle, I think

Yes, considered that. Thing is though, apart from passing through four or so sewn in loops, the rope is free at the ends although there is a ring at one end and a low rent plastic carbiner type thing at the other (both attached to nothing other than the rope itself). Grab the rope and pull it and it comes loose or potentially comes away completely

Just what you want as you drink a pint of seawater

Or am I still missing a trick?

Hightower · 08 May 2009, 19:04

I was walking around Port Solent Superstore today and saw some auto inflating horse shoe lifebouys and inflatable personal Danbouys. Anyone with experience of these?

jambo · 08 May 2009, 19:09

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Originally Posted by Leapy

Yes, considered that. Thing is though, apart from passing through four or so sewn in loops, the rope is free at the ends although there is a ring at one end and a low rent plastic carbiner type thing at the other (both attached to nothing other than the rope itself). Grab the rope and pull it and it comes loose or potentially comes away completely

Just what you want as you drink a pint of seawater

Or am I still missing a trick?

No I dont think you are that was the way mine was I attached it to itself at one and the other I left around my bracket where I store my throw line so if need be I attach. Hope this helps.
;cheers:
J

Heart-trouble · 08 May 2009, 19:32

doctor doctor i feel like a bar of soap...

...well thats lifebuoy

sorry

jambo · 08 May 2009, 22:08

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Originally Posted by Heart-trouble

doctor doctor i feel like a bar of soap...

...well thats lifebuoy

sorry

You are showing your age now!

J

tonymac · 08 May 2009, 22:28

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Originally Posted by Heart-trouble

doctor doctor i feel like a bar of soap...

...well thats lifebuoy

sorry

Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear........

jyasaki · 08 May 2009, 23:25

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Originally Posted by Hightower

I was walking around Port Solent Superstore today and saw some auto inflating horse shoe lifebouys and inflatable personal Danbouys. Anyone with experience of these?

Not sure what a Danbuoy is, but was it something like this?

jky

Nos4r2 · 08 May 2009, 23:55

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Originally Posted by Hightower

I was walking around Port Solent Superstore today and saw some auto inflating horse shoe lifebouys and inflatable personal Danbouys. Anyone with experience of these?

I spotted the personal danbuoys in the Force 4 catalogue. I'd be interested to see what they are like too.

Hightower · 09 May 2009, 01:30

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Originally Posted by jyasaki

Not sure what a Danbuoy is, but was it something like this?

jky

No jky, thats a horse shoe life ring. The danbouy goes into the air like a big inflatable stick with a flag and light on the end. I think the idea is that if you are in the water and obscured by waves then this makes you more visible to the rescue boat.

Hightower · 09 May 2009, 01:32

http://www.safety-marine.co.uk/Life-...oy---Light.htm

jyasaki · 09 May 2009, 05:35

Thanks; never heard it called that before. I think over here they call them MOB markers or somthing like that.

jky

SeaSkills · 09 May 2009, 06:04

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Originally Posted by Hightower

I was walking around Port Solent Superstore today and saw some auto inflating horse shoe lifebouys and inflatable personal Danbouys. Anyone with experience of these?

I had one to try out, and it worked very well. I would be happy to have them on board but unfortunately they aren't acceptable for a coded boat which must have permanently buoyant lifebuoys

simonnud · 09 May 2009, 10:18

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Originally Posted by SeaSkills

I had one to try out, and it worked very well. I would be happy to have them on board but unfortunately they aren't acceptable for a coded boat which must have permanently buoyant lifebuoys

Got my Scorpions coded MCA cat 4 with the horse shoe version. It is strapped to the a-frame but needed an extra bit of bungee. it looks much nicer than the foam one.

m chappelow · 09 May 2009, 13:35

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Originally Posted by jyasaki

Thanks; never heard it called that before. I think over here they call them MOB markers or somthing like that.

jky

Dan bouy or correct name dahn comes from the danish anchor seine netters in the north sea, we used it to mark the anchor rope of the purse net ,a good modern way instead of a flag on the pole is to use bright coloured tape ,it still flutters inthe wind but has less chance of blowing the lot over ,ones we used were 12 feet tall bamboo poles going through a 4 feet diamiter plastic dan bouy .as a matter of intrest i was told that having a lifebelt or a horeshoe float in the water even if the person is wearing a lifejacket ,gives them a better chance of survival as mentaly its something to hold on to,whilst waiting for rescue ,

SeaSkills · 09 May 2009, 22:02

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Originally Posted by simonnud

Got my Scorpions coded MCA cat 4 with the horse shoe version. It is strapped to the a-frame but needed an extra bit of bungee. it looks much nicer than the foam one.

Well Done!

This was the response when I tried to use inflatables ...

"Discussion with Mr Ralph, Principal Surveyor of Fishing & Code Vessel Safety Branch, has resulted in the response that inflatable lifebouys are unacceptable for coding purposes.

Reference was then made to MSN 1676 (Schedule 8) & MSN 1677 (Schedule 7, Schedule 12) accordingly (please see the following links) noting that for a RIB the 610mm lifebouy has often been accepted:

The Merchant Shipping (Life-Saving Appliances for Ships Other Than Ships of Classes III to VI(A)) Regulations 1999 http://www.mcga.gov.uk/c4mca/m.1676.pdf

and

The Merchant Shipping (Life-Saving Appliances for Ships Other Than Ships of Classes III to VI(A)) Regulations 1999 The Merchant Shipping (Life-Saving Appliances for Passenger Ships of Classes III to VI(A)) Regulations 1999 http://www.mcga.gov.uk/c4mca/msn_1677__m_.pdf "

MikeCC · 11 May 2009, 20:27

There's some logic in not allowing inflatables for coding as you are relying on a gas release mechanism at a time you want certainty and an obvious way to see how it works. (Although could also be said for lifejackets as - same mechanism)

The best aspect of the inflatable type for RIBs and smaller boats is they take much less space, especially if you don't have an A-frame.

Another useful product of this type is a simple rescue sling - usually have a padded sling and 30m or so of floating rope.