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11 February 2018, 12:11
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Country: UK - Channel Islands
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Boat name: Jazcabel
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Lifting up the deck
Hi guys and girls. I’ve got a bit of a dilemma that I’m hopeful you might be able to assist me with.
I’ve got a appx 300l integrated ally tank below the deck of my 02 ballistic 7.2 that I know is leaking somewhere. The boat also went under on its harbour mooring when the seam slpit on my starboard tube at the transom. No damage to motor, it’s been serviced and runs up fine.
I’ve ripped up all of the seats and in the middle of a complete refurb so all the fuel lines nad electrics are being replaced. The deck at this point is clear, bar the console which is easy to remove.
I’d like to know how easy/hard it is the cut the deck out around the tank and lift the tank out for inspection and fixing?
I’m ok with glassing it back in but how do I find the relevant stringers to cut along?
Thanks in advance
Craig
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11 February 2018, 12:23
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Town: Gosport
Boat name: April Lass
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You need to speak to Matt (Nos42r) and then go and lie down in a darkened room.
Pete
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11 February 2018, 13:42
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Country: UK - Channel Islands
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Boat name: Jazcabel
Make: Ballistic
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Oh great. Sounds like fun
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11 February 2018, 14:08
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It’s a painful job!
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11 February 2018, 14:46
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Boat name: Jazcabel
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Originally Posted by jezza101
It’s a painful job!
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Any further details than that?
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11 February 2018, 14:53
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Country: UK - England
Town: Dawlish
Make: Ribtec
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Hi Craig
I've just done exactly the same thing on a 7.5 metre Ribtec .
I carefully made a 25mm hole with a hole saw , measured the thickness of the deck and then set up my skill saw to exactly that depth .
I then cut a square in the centre of the boat about 300mm and could then measure and mark the stringers and bearers and cut more accurately.
I've attached some pics , it's a lot of work but worth it in the end .
Good Luck
Matt
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11 February 2018, 15:20
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Originally Posted by daffyboats
Hi Craig
I've just done exactly the same thing on a 7.5 metre Ribtec .
I carefully made a 25mm hole with a hole saw , measured the thickness of the deck and then set up my skill saw to exactly that depth .
I then cut a square in the centre of the boat about 300mm and could then measure and mark the stringers and bearers and cut more accurately.
I've attached some pics , it's a lot of work but worth it in the end .
Good Luck
Matt
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Thanks Matt,
Pictures are great. I have a drop in saw, which works like a circular saw, and I’ve got a couple of inspection hatches to work the depth out. Take it you just keep cutting out til you find the stringers??
By doing this, the deck you cut out becomes useless and has to be replaced?? No bad thing.
Thanks Matt, appreciated
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11 February 2018, 15:25
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Country: UK - Channel Islands
Town: Jersey
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Forgot to say that the job looks neat and well glassed. Did you find it fairly straight forward?
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11 February 2018, 15:25
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Yes I just kept making a bigger hole until all of the rotten wood had gone then reinforced with ply (which you can see in the pics ) to carry the timber into.
Should have attached one of the finished boat as well so here it is.
Cheers
Matt
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11 February 2018, 15:35
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Lovely job mate. Looks nice.
Take it the replaced deck is just marine or exterior ply, then glassed over the top to tie in with existing deck.
Sorry for so many questions
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11 February 2018, 17:05
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No worries
Yes the deck is 18mm marine ply ,glassed over and painted with Hempel multicoat.
Matt
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11 February 2018, 17:30
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Originally Posted by daffyboats
No worries
Yes the deck is 18mm marine ply ,glassed over and painted with Hempel multicoat.
Matt
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Brilliant Thanks Matt
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11 February 2018, 21:12
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RIBnet admin team
Country: UK - England
Town: The wilds of Wiltshire
Boat name: Dominator
Make: SR5.4
Length: 7m +
Engine: Yam 85
MMSI: 235055163
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Just seen that yours is a 2002 hull. Does it have a Mako builders plate on it or a Boating Dynamix plate? I think your deck is different to mine.
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11 February 2018, 21:19
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pete7
You need to speak to Matt (Nos42r) and then go and lie down in a darkened room.
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I've spoken to him once, and I was fine afterwards?
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11 February 2018, 21:20
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You should be able to feel and cut back from where all the pipes come up in the consul and from the sender unit hatch. I also have an inspection hatch into the tank at the stern. The only person I know that had done a 7.2m is biffer a couple of years ago. Lots of posts on it at the time. Mine needs doing the same but I'm going to run it this year from the 100l I put in the consul and the 2 bladders in the bow locker. I think the original tank was 220ltr. Unless your 100% your doing it why not cut a section out under your double jockey to see the state if things. Have you had a camera in the tank? Is it a split seam that could be repaired by creating an inspection area to fix?
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11 February 2018, 21:38
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I've spoken to him once, and I was fine afterwards?
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I wasn't!
It was the james Bond style 'excuse me, there's someone on the phone that wants to speak to you' from a random passer by.
Nearly gave me a seizure
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11 February 2018, 21:56
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nos4r2
...from a random passer by.
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Random. Sure....
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11 February 2018, 22:08
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Member
Country: UK - Channel Islands
Town: Jersey
Boat name: Jazcabel
Make: Ballistic
Length: 7m +
Engine: Petrol 150
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Quote:
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Just seen that yours is a 2002 hull. Does it have a Mako builders plate on it or a Boating Dynamix plate? I think your deck is different to mine.
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No matt, no plate, but as it’s an 02 I think it was a mako build. Here’s the deck pic
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11 February 2018, 22:14
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mhb100
You should be able to feel and cut back from where all the pipes come up in the consul and from the sender unit hatch. I also have an inspection hatch into the tank at the stern. The only person I know that had done a 7.2m is biffer a couple of years ago. Lots of posts on it at the time. Mine needs doing the same but I'm going to run it this year from the 100l I put in the consul and the 2 bladders in the bow locker. I think the original tank was 220ltr. Unless your 100% your doing it why not cut a section out under your double jockey to see the state if things. Have you had a camera in the tank? Is it a split seam that could be repaired by creating an inspection area to fix?
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Got the same hatch in the rear. The previous guy said he always had water in the fuel and I’ve git a feeling ther s water or fuel under the deck
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11 February 2018, 22:27
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Town: Swindon
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Jack up trailer safely beyond the normal top jockey height and see if you get a rush of fuel in the bilge. From the rear inspection I can see mine is stainless not alloy and has baffles so internal bladder option is out. I'd get a camera in it incase your lucky and it's something like some jockey seat bolts worn top of tank. perhaps do a pressure test first. You don't want to go taking up the floor unless your sure it's faulty.
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