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13 October 2009, 20:34
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Member
Country: UK - England
Boat name: llyn raider
Make: xs
Length: 7m +
Engine: 1 200hp merc
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 211
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dont get me wrong i feel bad for you/the situation you got put in. But it stopped being anything to do with you the moment you went "mate with rib meet sailing club, sailing club meet mate with rib" the greivance was between the club and your mate. thus if your mate decided to air the situation to the rib world then i would possibly have had more sympathy for the situation.
The club in question has one of the most confusing heirachys in place + the usual power strugles. the problem being that often the correct heirachy is not followed. this is usualy fine untill money has to be paid out. Then you find the paymaster never agreed to it thus isnt paying anyone else.
thinking about it it sounds alot like most sailing clubs.
anyway it was very good of you to pick up the clubs tab in the end.
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13 October 2009, 20:46
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Southampton
Boat name: Hissing Sid
Make: Ross Smith Cobra
Length: 6m +
Engine: 200HP Optimax
MMSI: 235038046
Join Date: Jun 2002
Posts: 3,804
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are we going to name and shame the club so no ribnetters get caught?
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13 October 2009, 20:47
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#103
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Member
Country: UK - Wales
Town: Pwllheli-North Wales
Boat name: V-ONE
Make: Highfield
Length: 8m +
Engine: Honda 250hp
Join Date: Mar 2001
Posts: 2,367
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Originally Posted by Jizm
are we going to name and shame the club so no ribnetters get caught?
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No Sorry
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13 October 2009, 20:56
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#104
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Up Norf
Make: Avon SR4,Tremlett 23
Length: 4m +
Engine: Yam 55, Volvo 200
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 5,217
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Originally Posted by Jizm
are we going to name and shame the club so no ribnetters get caught?
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I don't think the club has done anything and therefore shouldn't be named.
I'm not sure what it had to do with ribnet anyway.
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13 October 2009, 21:06
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Southampton
Boat name: Hissing Sid
Make: Ross Smith Cobra
Length: 6m +
Engine: 200HP Optimax
MMSI: 235038046
Join Date: Jun 2002
Posts: 3,804
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indeed, just wanted ribnetters to be aware in case they should be approached by them, forewarned is forarmed.....
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13 October 2009, 21:07
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#106
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Glasgow
Boat name: stramash
Make: Tornado
Length: 5m +
Engine: Etec 90
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 5,090
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jono Garton
I just wanted to see what peoples comments/thoughts were.
Jono
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So now that you have had the benefit of the views you asked for . what are your own thoughts and conclusions ?
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13 October 2009, 22:36
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#107
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Member
Country: UK - Wales
Town: Southampton
Boat name: DynaMoHumm/ SRV/deja
Make: Avon8.4, 5.4 & 4.777
Length: 8m +
Engine: Cat3126 Yam 90 &70
MMSI: 42
Join Date: Dec 2003
Posts: 6,562
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jono Garton
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You already have in one of your previous posts.
''and also SCYC is not responsible for the launching or recovery of any hired ribs.''
Mrs XYZ (Club Secretary)
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14 October 2009, 17:48
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#108
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Member
Country: UK - England
Boat name: llyn raider
Make: xs
Length: 7m +
Engine: 1 200hp merc
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 211
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yea i was sure he mentioned it. what are the conclusions.
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14 October 2009, 18:13
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#109
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Member
Country: UK - Channel Islands
Town: Alderney
Length: no boat
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 3,047
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Quote:
Originally Posted by chewy
I'm not sure what it had to do with ribnet anyway.
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How many clubs use safety boats that are not SIBS or RIBS? This is an issue that raised a number of valuable points, but above all it reminds us that as RIB owners we are likely to be approached for help running safety boat cover for a large event.
Very much a RIB.net matter. IMHO
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14 October 2009, 18:13
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#110
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Member
Country: UK - Wales
Town: West Wales
Make: Vipermax 5.8, SR4.7
Length: 5m +
Engine: 150 Opti, F50EFi
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 6,299
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jono Garton
The Yacht Club have decided they won't pay no matter how high, I take it.
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You won't know if the club is true to their word, until you take it to a higher level.
How high have you taken it, to date?
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14 October 2009, 18:25
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#111
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Brum
Boat name: UTV
Make: Bombard Aerotec
Length: 3m +
Engine: 2 stroke 25hp
MMSI: 235933026
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 736
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Why don't you create your own web site, using their business name in the URL, you can then make any type of accusation you like, all undefended. You could even put it into your signature and promote your 'story', thats if your bitter enough
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14 October 2009, 19:16
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#112
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Up Norf
Make: Avon SR4,Tremlett 23
Length: 4m +
Engine: Yam 55, Volvo 200
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 5,217
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tinker
Why don't you create your own web site, using their business name in the URL, you can then make any type of accusation you like, all undefended. You could even put it into your signature and promote your 'story', thats if your bitter enough
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14 October 2009, 20:33
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#113
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Member
Country: Ireland
Town: Belfast
Boat name: Cait
Make: Humber
Length: 5m +
Engine: 90hp Opti
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 909
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jono Garton
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Come on Jono - name and shame!
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14 October 2009, 21:39
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#114
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RIBnet admin team
Country: UK - Scotland
Boat name: imposter
Make: FunYak
Length: 3m +
Engine: Tohatsu 30HP
MMSI: 235089819
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 11,627
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tonymac
Come on Jono - name and shame!
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I don't think there is any need for that - anyone local probably has a pretty good idea who it is (afterall how many clubs organise events in that timeframe, lasting a week using that many safety boats).
For the rest of us it serves as a useful reminder that whether offering ones boat for club safety work or organising a club event needing external support that we should make sure it is explicitly clear and in writing the expenses/compensation package offered and any conditions for that. And if acting as an intermediate making sure that you are not piggy in the middle for any disputes!
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14 October 2009, 22:10
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#115
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Glasgow
Boat name: stramash
Make: Tornado
Length: 5m +
Engine: Etec 90
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 5,090
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I still think Jono owes us a final opinion to tell us his "views" after he got all ours as he asked.. you mentioned you wont be doing it again .. now be specific and tell us all what to look out for ?
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14 October 2009, 22:22
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#116
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Wilmslow
Boat name: Serotonin
Make: Quicksilver
Length: 3m +
Engine: Mariner 15
Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 712
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So any sailing dinghies going cheap in Pwllheli
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15 October 2009, 12:46
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#117
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Member
Country: UK - England
Boat name: llyn raider
Make: xs
Length: 7m +
Engine: 1 200hp merc
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 211
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Polwart
I don't think there is any need for that - anyone local probably has a pretty good idea who it is (afterall how many clubs organise events in that timeframe, lasting a week using that many safety boats).
For the rest of us it serves as a useful reminder that whether offering ones boat for club safety work or organising a club event needing external support that we should make sure it is explicitly clear and in writing the expenses/compensation package offered and any conditions for that. And if acting as an intermediate making sure that you are not piggy in the middle for any disputes!
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Their are 2 clubs in that area that run multiple international events through the summer and the problem is he isnt talking about the club closest to him so very easy to be a case of mistaken identity on that one. partly why i Imediatly took a disliking to this thread.
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15 October 2009, 12:47
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#118
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Member
Country: UK - England
Boat name: llyn raider
Make: xs
Length: 7m +
Engine: 1 200hp merc
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 211
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fred bolton
So any sailing dinghies going cheap in Pwllheli
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it isnt the club in pwllheli - see the problem now? makes other clubs look bad
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15 October 2009, 16:13
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#119
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Ardfern
Boat name: Moon Raker
Make: Humber Destroyer
Length: 5m +
Engine: Honda BF 90 D
MMSI: 235035994
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 694
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fred bolton
So any sailing dinghies going cheap in Pwllheli
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Probably, but not because of this thread. The club in question has its initials mentioned in an earlier post. Google them, then you'll know who and where.
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15 October 2009, 16:16
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#120
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Member
Country: UK - England
Boat name: llyn raider
Make: xs
Length: 7m +
Engine: 1 200hp merc
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 211
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Quote:
Originally Posted by alystra
Probably, but not because of this thread. The club in question has its initials mentioned in an earlier post. Google them, then you'll know who and where.
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and by initials you mean the only thing anyoune in the north west calls the club. never heard anyone call it anything else lol
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