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12 September 2006, 23:00
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: London/Oxford
Make: Ribcrafts
Length: 5m +
Engine: 150hp/2x115hp
MMSI: 235090215
Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 2,250
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Originally Posted by codprawn
Everyone told me my Suzuki 225efi would be as thirsty as hell because it's not one of the latest 4 strokes or high pressure systems - and yet I find it no worse than other people's claims.
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Most leisure users will never do the kind of hours that are needed to break even on the HDPI/4 stroke outlay compared to the traditional carbed outboards.
The only benefit is the increased range, a bit quieter, no need to buy oil and the environmentally friendly bit.
My Ribtec is for sale for 15k so you'd have some change if you wanted. PM me if you want more details.
Chris
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12 September 2006, 23:58
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Member
Country: Other
Town: Stanley, Falkland Is
Boat name: Seawolf
Make: Osprey Vipermax 5.8
Length: 5m +
Engine: Etec 150
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 3,726
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Originally Posted by CJL
Most leisure users will never do the kind of hours that are needed to break even on the HDPI/4 stroke outlay compared to the traditional carbed outboards.
The only benefit is the increased range, a bit quieter, no need to buy oil and the environmentally friendly bit.
My Ribtec is for sale for 15k so you'd have some change if you wanted. PM me if you want more details.
Chris
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But don't you think its a bit like fitting LPG to a big V8 engine. The one off expense hurts but then its gone, a bit like shipping figures where you draw a line under the Titanic and start again, and you get a feel good factor every time you use the boat rather than thinking "ouch" on a regular basis every time you have to fill it up
If my engine went bang or if/when I get a new RIB I'll definitely be looking for something more efficient - the Johnson I have now drinks so much I might as well just disconnect the fuel hose at the engine and hang it over the transom...
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13 September 2006, 09:26
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Bucks
Boat name: Blue & Ding Dong
Make: Ribeye,SR4 & Bombard
Length: 6m +
Engine: 115,50 & 15Hp Yams
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 3,252
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Originally Posted by CJL
Most leisure users will never do the kind of hours that are needed to break even on the HDPI/4 stroke outlay compared to the traditional carbed outboards.
The only benefit is the increased range, a bit quieter, no need to buy oil and the environmentally friendly bit.
My Ribtec is for sale for 15k so you'd have some change if you wanted. PM me if you want more details.
Chris
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Thanks but I don't think yours ticks any more boxes than my present boat!
Nick
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13 September 2006, 11:56
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: I.O.W
Boat name: Danger Donut
Make: 6.0 rib
Length: 6m +
Engine: Mariner F60efi
Join Date: Nov 2003
Posts: 185
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shearwater - used
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Originally Posted by Andy Moore
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Spotted your post and Andys reply. we have just had in our first used 860 shearwater. last years boat with 225 optimax, posted a couple of picks for you ( cabin pick is robbo's boat but almost identicle ) lots of toys flexiteck floor now fitted £42K allot above your budget but sounds like it would suit your needs.in Bembridge if you need more pictures - demo let me know regards Jim
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13 September 2006, 12:03
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Lee on the Solent
Boat name: Saintlee
Make: Leeway
Length: 6m +
Engine: Evinrude DI 115
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 325
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Originally Posted by BogMonster
If my engine went bang or if/when I get a new RIB I'll definitely be looking for something more efficient - the Johnson I have now drinks so much I might as well just disconnect the fuel hose at the engine and hang it over the transom...
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That's interesting as my understanding is that it's the same OMC/Bombardier engine as my 'Rude Ficht 115 which is so frugal I have found myself wondering if I have an airlock in my tank when I'm filling up!
In answer to the question posed by the original poster, why not speak to Lee at Leeway. He could custom-build you a boat with all that you require for your budget (have a look at the website!). I still love mine.
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13 September 2006, 12:37
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Bucks
Boat name: Blue & Ding Dong
Make: Ribeye,SR4 & Bombard
Length: 6m +
Engine: 115,50 & 15Hp Yams
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 3,252
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Originally Posted by Jim Robinson
Spotted your post and Andys reply. we have just had in our first used 860 shearwater. last years boat with 225 optimax, posted a couple of picks for you ( cabin pick is robbo's boat but almost identicle ) lots of toys flexiteck floor now fitted £42K allot above your budget but sounds like it would suit your needs.in Bembridge if you need more pictures - demo let me know regards Jim
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Thanks Jim I think it ticks all the boxes but one the price!
Nick
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13 September 2006, 13:37
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Member
Country: UK - Wales
Town: swansea
Boat name: Too Blue
Make: BLANK
Length: 8m +
Engine: Suzuki DT225
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 12,791
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[QUOTE=Lostboy] That's interesting as my understanding is that it's the same OMC/Bombardier engine as my 'Rude Ficht 115 which is so frugal I have found myself wondering if I have an airlock in my tank when I'm filling up!
In answer to the question posed by the original poster, why not speak to Lee at Leeway. He could custom-build you a boat with all that you require for your budget (have a look at the website!). I still love mine. [/QUOTE
Not quite - the Johnsons are carbs or 4 strokes - Ficht is direct injection
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13 September 2006, 16:16
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Member
Country: Other
Town: Stanley, Falkland Is
Boat name: Seawolf
Make: Osprey Vipermax 5.8
Length: 5m +
Engine: Etec 150
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 3,726
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Originally Posted by Lostboy
That's interesting as my understanding is that it's the same OMC/Bombardier engine as my 'Rude Ficht 115 which is so frugal I have found myself wondering if I have an airlock in my tank when I'm filling up!
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I'm more likely to be left wondering if I have a hole in my tank!!!
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15 September 2006, 11:39
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: portsmouth
Boat name: bojangles
Make: scorpion
Length: 8m +
Engine: yanmar
Join Date: Apr 2003
Posts: 159
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Nick, if you liked the Viper how about its big brother, owner is a member of Ribnet.
http://www.boatsandoutboards.com/view/F115271/
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Hi Pete,
Thanks for the mention. Will be sad to see her go.
Nick,
Hot Lemon would tick all the boxes except the sun lounger. Would be open to offers if it is going to a good home on ribnet! Its been a great boat.
Cheers
Ozz
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15 September 2006, 12:30
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RIBnet supporter
Country: UK - England
Boat name: Little Wing
Make: Searider 5.4
Length: 5m +
Engine: Tohatsu 90
Join Date: Aug 2002
Posts: 1,069
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Originally Posted by ozz
Will be sad to see her go.
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If it's the boat that was parked up in Cowes Yact Haven last Monday, it very nearly came home with me.
DM
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15 September 2006, 16:27
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Bromsgrove
Boat name: Kick-Ass !
Make: PAC/Artic 22
Length: 6m +
Engine: 250hp Yamaha
Join Date: Nov 2003
Posts: 3,577
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Originally Posted by ozz
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Nick, if you liked the Viper how about its big brother, owner is a member of Ribnet.
http://www.boatsandoutboards.com/view/F115271/
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Hi Pete,
Thanks for the mention. Will be sad to see her go.
Nick,
Hot Lemon would tick all the boxes except the sun lounger. Would be open to offers if it is going to a good home on ribnet! Its been a great boat.
Cheers
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so thats a starting bid of 12k then
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15 September 2006, 17:00
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#32
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: portsmouth
Boat name: bojangles
Make: scorpion
Length: 8m +
Engine: yanmar
Join Date: Apr 2003
Posts: 159
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If you just want the engine
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06 October 2006, 15:09
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Bucks
Boat name: Blue & Ding Dong
Make: Ribeye,SR4 & Bombard
Length: 6m +
Engine: 115,50 & 15Hp Yams
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 3,252
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Well I still am going around & around on this one!
Still like the cobrs, but worried by the wet hard ride??
Ribeye looks very strong contender!
But 7.5 scorpion is looking good like this one http://www.boatsandoutboards.co.uk/view/LYM044/
Would like more storage & the sub lounger but it is a scorpion!!
Any first hand experience on any? if so lets hear you thoughts!
Confused of beaconsfield
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06 October 2006, 15:36
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: West Sussex
Length: no boat
Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 3,872
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Originally Posted by Nick Hearne
Well I still am going around & around on this one!
Still like the cobrs, but worried by the wet hard ride??
Ribeye looks very strong contender!
But 7.5 scorpion is looking good like this one http://www.boatsandoutboards.co.uk/view/LYM044/
Would like more storage & the sub lounger but it is a scorpion!!
Any first hand experience on any? if so lets hear you thoughts!
Confused of beaconsfield
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Nick what is your budget.
Why not consider my new Parker 750RS with Mercruiser 320HP
1/ soft and dry ride
2/. loads of storage space just look at the console seat
3/. was it a sun lounger you wanted, well what about the top of the engine compartment
4/. at 47knots you can talk to the person next to you. Total protection from the windscreen
5/. If you are put off by diesel power then you could consider a petrol option
just tell me which Mercury engine
you can see photos on www.parkerribs.com (NEWS)
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06 October 2006, 16:05
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#35
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Member
Country: UK - Wales
Town: Southampton
Boat name: DynaMoHumm/ SRV/deja
Make: Avon8.4, 5.4 & 4.777
Length: 8m +
Engine: Cat3126 Yam 90 &70
MMSI: 42
Join Date: Dec 2003
Posts: 6,562
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nick Hearne
Well I still am going around & around on this one!
Still like the cobrs, but worried by the wet hard ride??
Ribeye looks very strong contender!
But 7.5 scorpion is looking good like this one http://www.boatsandoutboards.co.uk/view/LYM044/
Would like more storage & the sub lounger but it is a scorpion!!
Any first hand experience on any? if so lets hear you thoughts!
Confused of beaconsfield
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Putting it in to a contect you may be more familiar with the differnce between a Ribeye and a Scorpion is the difference between a Ryobi and an Elu router.
that boat looks in very good condition and the ride will be all you are looking for in a boat and the Opti 200 are very enjoyable lumps.
Id certainly buy a secondhand Scorpion before I bought a new Ribeye cos I think the Scorpion would lose less money over the next four years. But then you's expect me to say that. I had a Scorpion 6.5 for three years and it worked hard (over 1000 hours) the boat never failed to thrill but also because it was made properly it was easy to keep on top of..
Things to watch out for if looking at the boat
Have a good look at the nose (Alright Stem) of the boat where the toobs do be joining the hull Have a look to see how much abrasion is on the Hyperlon.
If it's a little bit then that's probably in keeping with the claimed hours if there is a lot of abrasion it's probably done a lot more hours
i have yet to see a manufacturers wiring job that really impressed me (apart from an extreme hardboat) and Scorpions are no exception have a good look at the wiring inside the hatch and see how rough./ good it looks
if you want new don't overlook the Shakespeare 720 as constructed by Steve the boat. They are very reasonably priced very well made and would fit in your budget. Theres a demo boat at Drivers Wharf in Southampton..... they might let you have a go
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09 October 2006, 11:16
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#36
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Bucks
Boat name: Blue & Ding Dong
Make: Ribeye,SR4 & Bombard
Length: 6m +
Engine: 115,50 & 15Hp Yams
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 3,252
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Well went to see a 6 year old ribeye & a 9 year old scorpion yesterday, they made my 12 year old viper look like new!!!
But the hole family liked the Ballistic 6.5 very much
Any one got one?
Nick
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11 October 2006, 10:35
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#37
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Salcombe, Devon, UK
Boat name: BananaShark
Make: BananaShark
Length: 10m +
Engine: 2xYanmar 260 diesels
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 4,225
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rogue Wave
i have yet to see a manufacturers wiring job that really impressed me (apart from an extreme hardboat) and Scorpions are no exception have a good look at the wiring inside the hatch and see how rough./ good it looks
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You would be welcome to come and see our wiring anyday - we use marine grade tinned cable and our connectors are the crimp and heatshrink with glue type. Everything is held down so it can't flap around in a chop - racing powerboats is a good way to learn how many ways things can fail!
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Originally Posted by Zippy
When a boat looks that good who needs tubes!!!
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11 October 2006, 13:08
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#38
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Inverkip
Make: Redbay 11m Cabin
Length: 10m +
Engine: 2 x Yamaha422Sti 275
Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 567
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rogue Wave
i have yet to see a manufacturers wiring job that really impressed me (apart from an extreme hardboat) and Scorpions are no exception have a good look at the wiring inside the hatch and see how rough./ good it looks
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Have a look at the newer Redbay wiring, pure class . I hate untidy/un labeled wiring and was delighted to see that Redbay have taken the time to detail every wire/breaker, and to clip it properly. It makes life so much easier to change and check thing.
Andy
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11 October 2006, 13:33
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#39
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Bucks
Boat name: Blue & Ding Dong
Make: Ribeye,SR4 & Bombard
Length: 6m +
Engine: 115,50 & 15Hp Yams
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 3,252
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Andre
Nick what is your budget.
Why not consider my new Parker 750RS with Mercruiser 320HP
1/ soft and dry ride
2/. loads of storage space just look at the console seat
3/. was it a sun lounger you wanted, well what about the top of the engine compartment
4/. at 47knots you can talk to the person next to you. Total protection from the windscreen
5/. If you are put off by diesel power then you could consider a petrol option
just tell me which Mercury engine
you can see photos on www.parkerribs.com (NEWS)
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Looking at 20 to 25k
Nick
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11 October 2006, 16:55
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#40
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Dorset
Length: 4m +
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 1,410
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nick Hearne
Looking at 20 to 25k
Nick
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A new well equipped Solent 6.5 and 150Opti is well within your price range, I would contact FairWeather marine. Having spent a couple of days on Brucehawsker's Farfetched recently it is where my money would go .
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