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18 May 2011, 12:15
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Looking to get into a Rib
hi i am new to the world of Rib's and looking into get one, i am looking for a fairly large Rib as it will proabbly need to carry upto 8-10 people, i will want to use it to criuse and as a sports boat, advice on type of boat welcome, i will proabbly have a buget around £20K
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18 May 2011, 13:06
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Make: FunYak
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Originally Posted by David Marshall
hi i am new to the world of Rib's and looking into get one, i am looking for a fairly large Rib as it will proabbly need to carry upto 8-10 people, i will want to use it to criuse and as a sports boat, advice on type of boat welcome, i will proabbly have a buget around £20K
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That's quite a leap in at the deep end for a new guy. You will go from no experience to being responsible for the safety and well being of 10 people in one go. Where are you planning to cruise (type of seas), likely weather and distance of cruise would all affect the choice. Have you thought about where you are going to keep it and how you will launch it (it sounds like you are looking for ATLEAST a 7.5m boat).
It also doesn't come cheap. I'd guess you might also end up with a 200+HP engine which at today's prices will cost you something like £100 an hour to run (unless you have a lot of self control with the throttle). Storage in dry stack or a marina will cost you at least £2000 on the south coast (and in a prime location could be quite a bit more). Basic safety kit for 10 people will be another grand.
How often will you actually have 10 people out. Do you think they will contribute to running costs?
It may work out cheaper to rent from someone like solent rib charter?
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18 May 2011, 13:36
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Originally Posted by Polwart
You will go from no experience to being responsible for the safety and well being of 10 people in one go.
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New fish doesn't say he has no experience. There ARE other boats that aren't RIBs. Your's for example...
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18 May 2011, 13:37
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i know it's a leap, i wouldn't take out with everyone straight away and planning on more training as well, but i would probably buy it with a good mate and so some times would have 2 families on it and just cruise around the Medway and Thames, we would have it based in the Medway or at home on a trailer and use it around the south coast
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18 May 2011, 14:20
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That number of people suggest a boat of at least 7.3m and a good engine to get fair performance and economy/range looks essential.
Two pairs of jockey seats, plus one in the front of the console and a rear bench in front of the transom would give you 8/9 comfortably.
How much gear (ie stowage) will you need?
In your other thread on the same subject you mention trailering, so I would say you want something under 8m.
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18 May 2011, 14:22
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See my reply to the same question in Ribs Wanted.
Merge perhaps?
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18 May 2011, 15:04
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Looks good - -
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18 May 2011, 16:03
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new to this forum stuff and dont really know how to merge the two
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18 May 2011, 16:08
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new to this forum stuff and dont really know how to merge the two
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That is ok, the mighty moderators did it and got rid of the one in the for sale section too.
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18 May 2011, 20:12
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new to this forum stuff and dont really know how to merge the two
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David - you can't it needs a moderator to do the tidying up. Generally on here 99% of people seem to read stuff in most categories anyway so no need to cross post into multiple forums (which just makes it confusing for people on where to reply).
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New fish doesn't say he has no experience. There ARE other boats that aren't RIBs. Your's for example...
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indeed there are - but my psychic powers told me he was relatively new to boating (I'm surprised that you didn't already have him plotted on the Willk wall of secret knowledge!). However RIBs aren't always ideal for large numbers of people because the blowy up bits round the outside take up so much of the seating space.
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Originally Posted by DavidMarshall
i know it's a leap, i wouldn't take out with everyone straight away and planning on more training as well, but i would probably buy it with a good mate and so some times would have 2 families on it and just cruise around the Medway and Thames, we would have it based in the Medway or at home on a trailer and use it around the south coast
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OK, many people start off small and are very soon looking to "move up" so it is not necessarily crazy to try and get it right first time. If you'll only ever be doing short hops in good conditions with that many on board then its more reasonable to have people sitting on the tubes - in which case a smaller boat than I originally suggested is possible. If you are going out for more than say 1/2 an hour at a time (which is still 10+ miles at a leisurely cruising speed) then I'd suggest you want proper seats for everyone - so if you only need seat for 4 or 5 at a time you'll have more options, less storage costs, less fuel cost, easier to tow and launch etc, so something around 6m becomes possible.
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18 May 2011, 20:35
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18 May 2011, 20:38
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Originally Posted by Polwart
indeed there are - but my psychic powers told me he was relatively new to boating (I'm surprised that you didn't already have him plotted on the Willk wall of secret knowledge!)
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System's down - Mrs willk had the painters in...
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18 May 2011, 21:33
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What about a cobra 7.5, a few second hand ones on market. Leisure/sports orientated
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18 May 2011, 22:10
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1st rib
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Originally Posted by David Marshall
i know it's a leap, i wouldn't take out with everyone straight away and planning on more training as well, but i would probably buy it with a good mate and so some times would have 2 families on it and just cruise around the Medway and Thames, we would have it based in the Medway or at home on a trailer and use it around the south coast
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My advice is threefold if you're serious about ribbing in the UK:
1. A deep V hull and high bow
2. Quality jockey seats
3. British manufactured in Hyaplon
Happy shopping
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18 May 2011, 22:16
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Well I cant knock my Ribtech. 20 years on and still going.
Rib eye seem good to.
Best to take a look at some and give them a try.
But like many have said its all the little bits that build the cost up.
vhf,echo, nav/gps, antenas, controls, gauges, ropes,anchors,fenders,covers, flares, tools, spares.
but they are good fun and go for what you like and can afford
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18 May 2011, 23:31
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Thanks guys for all the great advice and tips I will carry on looking into this and I am sure I'll have some question
David
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