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09 August 2014, 20:58
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Country: UK - England
Town: yorkshire
Boat name: little vicky
Make: avon ex RNLI
Length: 3m +
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Looks another kill cord incident
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09 August 2014, 21:14
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Country: UK - Wales
Town: Cardiff
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On a powerboat the kill cord should be attached securely around the thigh and on a personal watercraft it should be attached to the buoyancy aid.”
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Is this new? Mine goes on the wrist of my throttle hand........ ???
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09 August 2014, 22:12
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Numerous discussions on here about KC's and where to put them. Fundamentally its important they are attached securely. There is a school of thought that its too easy to come off your hand as you go over...
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09 August 2014, 22:18
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Glasgow
Boat name: stramash
Make: Tornado
Length: 5m +
Engine: Etec 90
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 5,090
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HDAV
Is this new? Mine goes on the wrist of my throttle hand........ ???
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ShinyShoe
Numerous discussions on here about KC's and where to put them. Fundamentally its important they are attached securely. There is a school of thought that its too easy to come off your hand as you go over...
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Yes it just commonly slips off the wrist .. better attached to a loop on your PFD (or simlar) so the cord gets ripped from the switch to kill the motor
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09 August 2014, 22:33
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Town: Cardiff
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I have the kill cord on a velcro strap that is as tight as a watch strap as i didnt like the wrap it round and clip it to itself method....
Anyway just came across this sure it must have been posted here before...
Scary stuff
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10 August 2014, 07:29
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Country: UK - England
Town: Sussex
Make: RIBTEC 655
Length: 6m +
Engine: Yam 150
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The general opinion seems to be that if you attach it to your wrist then there is a change it could get snagged on the wheel
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10 August 2014, 08:13
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Country: UK - England
Town: Southampton
Make: Ballistic
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Engine: Yam 225
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TBH attached anywhere is better then nowhere. although the Vid also highlights why your throttle friction should not be too tight on a tiller controlled boat.
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10 August 2014, 09:37
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According to the article he was acting as a safety boat for the pedeloes, so im persuming the pedaloes can be hired from swanage and he was employed by council or private. You would think that someone whose job was to provide safety cover would have a good understanding of safety issues. Perhaps he got his P45 after this.
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10 August 2014, 11:19
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Country: UK - England
Town: Sheffield
Boat name: Touch Bottom
Make: Avon
Length: 4m +
Engine: 50 hp Merc Power t&t
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Originally Posted by boristhebold
You would think that someone whose job was to provide safety cover would have a good understanding of safety issues. Perhaps he got his P45 after this.
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Well if he didnt he should have !!
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10 August 2014, 11:33
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Country: UK - England
Town: Horley
Make: Yamaha 3.1 STI
Length: 3m +
Engine: 9.8 Tohatsu 2 stroke
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Wow, never seen what happens when an unmanned boat let rip, a real eye opener
I am buying one of those Velcro kill cord straps right now
Thxs for sharing this clip
Mick
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10 August 2014, 12:34
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You can get Velcro straps for a couple of quid at wilko's just attach to standard kill cord but give it test! Before you need it!
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10 August 2014, 12:35
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Or attach to your PFD...
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10 August 2014, 13:34
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Country: UK - England
Town: swanage
Make: Thundercat
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I put mine on my wrist & put it through my watch strap. It's then tied to my wrist so won't slip off & I can pull the cord out faster if someone goes overboard rather than thumbling for it if it's attached to my BA or leg
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10 August 2014, 14:01
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Pulling the kill cord is not part of standard MOB procedure.
It leaves you several yards from victim. Needing to restart engine. As you two man and manual start can you reconnect KC and start engine while keeping ur eyes on victim. Try it with buoy in waves with crew with stop watch.. Bet u can be back quicker and safer without killing...
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10 August 2014, 14:44
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Country: Other
Town: Caribbean
Boat name: Rib
Make: Avon
Length: under 3m
Engine: 2.5 Tahatsu outboard
Join Date: Jun 2014
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I wonder what caused him to fall out?
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10 August 2014, 16:34
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ShinyShoe
Pulling the kill cord is not part of standard MOB procedure.
It leaves you several yards from victim. Needing to restart engine. As you two man and manual start can you reconnect KC and start engine while keeping ur eyes on victim. Try it with buoy in waves with crew with stop watch.. Bet u can be back quicker and safer without killing...
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Indeed and leaves the boat out of control drifting!!! Normally if a man/women/child/dog goes over board happens when it isn't flat calm! You need the engine to maneuver! PLease don't pull the kill cord unless the helmsman is "no longer at the controls"!
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10 August 2014, 19:03
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Town: livingston
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Make: valiant
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Fit a carabiner to the kill cord and clip it to your life jacket. Each person has their own kill cord which ensures that it is used
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10 August 2014, 19:08
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Quote:
Originally Posted by macattack101
Fit a carabiner to the kill cord and clip it to your life jacket. Each person has their own kill cord which ensures that it is used
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How does that ensure it is used? or are yours the PWC cap style?
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10 August 2014, 19:20
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: livingston
Boat name: the massive
Make: valiant
Length: 6m +
Engine: honda BF115
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It's not foolproof but In our case there are 3 family members who are allowed to drive and we all use our own kill cord rather than a boat cord that is left dangling in the wind. It also means that if you go overboard they have a kill cord ready to use. You still have to make sure we all conform to the keep it clipped rule.
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10 August 2014, 19:22
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A decent kill switch can't accidentally be started without engaging the KC. Of everyone had there own then changing crew means unplug and plug in new. Not disconnecting the human.
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