Man overboard devices

roger dodge · 05 March 2022, 11:19

Hi, given that small ribs do not have a lot of space what flotation devices do people use for man overboard situation and where do you store them eg A frame ?

Limecc · 05 March 2022, 11:54

Killcord, self-inflating life jacket, whistle and DSC radio clipped to the LJ just about covers it. No need to store anything on board even though we've room, just follow the recovery instruction we had on the PB2 course.

jeffstevens763@g · 05 March 2022, 12:08

always wear them

roger dodge · 05 March 2022, 14:27

I agree entirely and have those plus more .I more thinking about coming in sight of sight of a non crew member . ( another boat in trouble ).

Fenlander · 05 March 2022, 14:33

Even less room in a 3.8m SIB but now and again I wonder about a throw line/bag for assisting a third party in the water.

lakelandterrier · 05 March 2022, 15:02

On my boat all wear auto-inflate LJs whilst under way so any MOB from the boat should have immediate support from this. Killcord on the helm and I have HH VHF always clipped to my LJ.

I also carry a lifebuoy on the A-frame, and a throwing line in one of the pods should I need to assist a person in the water not from my boat.

TBH getting to a casualty in the water quickly and getting them on board is the most effective thing to do. In that case a throwline is probably more use than a lifebuoy.

Limecc · 05 March 2022, 15:04

I still don't get it. Casualty in the water you kill the engine and drift right up to them and retrieve. Boat in trouble you throw your line or tie it on (depending on conditions) from the safety of your boat. Lifebuoys only needed from a river bank or pier where you can't render close assistance, what boat would have one except if it were a large vessel that can't easily manoeuvre?

roger dodge · 05 March 2022, 16:58

[QUOTE=lakelandterrier;849721]On my boat all wear auto-inflate LJs whilst under way so any MOB from the boat should have immediate support from this. Killcord on the helm and I have HH VHF always clipped to my LJ.

I also carry a lifebuoy on the A-frame, and a throwing line in one of the pods should I need to assist a person in the water not from my boat.

TBH getting to a casualty in the water quickly and getting them on board is the most effective thing to do. In that case a throwline is probably more use than a lifebuoy.[/QUOT

Good point , I will buy a lifeline now , that solves the problem.

jeffstevens763@g · 05 March 2022, 19:22

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Originally Posted by Limecc

I still don't get it. Casualty in the water you kill the engine and drift right up to them and retrieve. Boat in trouble you throw your line or tie it on (depending on conditions) from the safety of your boat. Lifebuoys only needed from a river bank or pier where you can't render close assistance, what boat would have one except if it were a large vessel that can't easily manoeuvre?

I pulled a boat off the rocks in Portland harbour had to stand off as the wind would have put us both on the rocks. I used the anchor line at the buoy end to throw plenty of rope then. Throw lines are ok but would have been too short in my case. The engine had just had a service but someone forgot to put oil back in, kids on board too.

lakelandterrier · 06 March 2022, 10:56

That's a different situation from the OP's question about MOB recovery kit.

A throw line could also be used in that situation as a lighter heaving line with the towline bent to it to pass the tow line to the casualty from a distance.

Fully agree that there are times you cannot drift down to recover someone - e.g rocks, shallows so getting a line round them and pulling them in may be the solution.

roger dodge · 06 March 2022, 11:29

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Originally Posted by lakelandterrier

That's a different situation from the OP's question about MOB recovery kit.

A throw line could also be used in that situation as a lighter heaving line with the towline bent to it to pass the tow line to the casualty from a distance.

Fully agree that there are times you cannot drift down to recover someone - e.g rocks, shallows so getting a line round them and pulling them in may be the solution.

I think my title was poorly chosen , it should really have said , recovering third party from the water .⁷

GuyC · 06 March 2022, 14:49

Adrenaline!

https://www.iwradio.co.uk/news/isle-...ampton-waters/

paintman · 06 March 2022, 22:55

Wonder how long they'd been sat there watching that approaching before deciding it might be an idea to move?

paintman · 06 March 2022, 23:00

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Originally Posted by roger dodge

I think my title was poorly chosen , it should really have said , recovering third party from the water .⁷

I've got one of the Riber throwlines. 25m in my case as I have room. They do also do shorter ones.
Easy to use & easy to do full length throw - use an underarm throw.
This will give you an idea of their packed size: www.ebay.co.uk/itm/281198215581?epid=1545311142

lakelandterrier · 06 March 2022, 23:13

goes to show...ALWAYS work to have max sea-room, getting close up and personal is not worth it.

I know abandoning the boat is a last resort....but looks like a good call...albeit maybe a bit late?

Trust all were safe.

spartacus · 06 March 2022, 23:34

Uncomfortable to watch. That container ship couldn't stop even if they saw them. Sure it will be pushed to MAIB investigation.

roger dodge · 07 March 2022, 00:09

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Originally Posted by paintman

I've got one of the Riber throwlines. 25m in my case as I have room. They do also do shorter ones.
Easy to use & easy to do full length throw - use an underarm throw.
This will give you an idea of their packed size: www.ebay.co.uk/itm/281198215581?epid=1545311142

Thank you, that is a great help. I tend to be single handed so it is vital to get a contact with a third party person in the water whilst I direct the rib.

paintman · 07 March 2022, 11:31

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Originally Posted by roger dodge

Thank you, that is a great help. I tend to be single handed so it is vital to get a contact with a third party person in the water whilst I direct the rib.

This worth a watch. Esp how to put the rope back in the bag.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zJOL40GOtc

If you throw & miss then pull it back so the rope sits loosely on the ground or in the bottom of the boat clear of anything it might snag on. Fill the bag with water & the water is now the weight for your next throw(s).

Kingsview · 07 March 2022, 13:38

I always keep a spare kill-cord on board and make sure any crew/passengers know where it is stored and how to use it, so as to be able to restart the engine if needed to carry out MOB retrieval in case it's the skipper who goes overboard with his/her kill cord attached.

lakelandterrier · 07 March 2022, 20:01

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Originally Posted by Kingsview

I always keep a spare kill-cord on board and make sure any crew/passengers know where it is stored and how to use it, so as to be able to restart the engine if needed to carry out MOB retrieval in case it's the skipper who goes overboard with his/her kill cord attached.

+1