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20 October 2022, 13:53
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Edinburgh
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Make: Hydro force
Length: 3m +
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Marine service info
Hi All
I am looking for a other rib and found cps marine services selling ribs but the prices seam a bit low( I do like a bargain being from Scotland), just wondering if they are real and above board.
https://www.cpsmarineservices.com/ri...ng_orderby=ASC
Cheers Kevin
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20 October 2022, 14:30
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: South Yorks
Boat name: Black Pig
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: DF140a
MMSI: 235111389
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 12,170
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Originally Posted by kevinsc
Hi All
I am looking for a other rib and found cps marine services selling ribs but the prices seam a bit low( I do like a bargain being from Scotland), just wondering if they are real and above board.
https://www.cpsmarineservices.com/ri...ng_orderby=ASC
Cheers Kevin
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https://find-and-update.company-info...U/appointments
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20 October 2022, 14:36
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Edinburgh
Boat name: no name
Make: Hydro force
Length: 3m +
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Hi pikey Dave
Cheers for the info, have had dealings or know the company
Cheers Kevin
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20 October 2022, 15:21
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: north ayrshire
Boat name: charlie girl
Make: S/R5.4/regal3760
Length: 10m +
Engine: Suzukidf70 2x6lp 315
Join Date: Jul 2009
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Thats got scam written all over it with those prices
Sent from my SM-G950F using RIB Net mobile app
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20 October 2022, 16:34
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: South Yorks
Boat name: Black Pig
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: DF140a
MMSI: 235111389
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 12,170
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Originally Posted by kevinsc
Hi pikey Dave
Cheers for the info, have had dealings or know the company
Cheers Kevin
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Never heard of ‘em. But they do exist & have been trading since 2013. They haven’t been doing much though by the look of their accounts. I’d want to physically see & touch any potential purchase. As always Caveat Emptor.
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20 October 2022, 17:01
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Member
Country: UK - England
Boat name: Redneck
Make: Excel
Length: 3m +
Engine: 20 efi & 9.8 2s
Join Date: Jul 2020
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Most of the pictures on their website have been lifted from another website called Bissaker Maritime Ltd from Chester.
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20 October 2022, 19:45
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Make: Humber Ocean Pro
Length: 3m +
Engine: Yam 200HP
Join Date: Jul 2009
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Surely only a blind person would believe those prices [emoji15][emoji15]
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20 October 2022, 20:24
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Edinburgh
Boat name: no name
Make: Hydro force
Length: 3m +
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Hi all
I thought as the price is that low it's too good to be true.
Cheers Kevin
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21 October 2022, 01:00
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Leicester
Length: 5m +
Engine: 135hp Mercury
Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 1,431
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Just tried Googling Bissaker Maritime Ltd & clicking their website link gives the result 'Account suspended'
And this also comes up:
https://db.aa419.org/fakebanksview.php?key=158258
As you might know 419 is the Nigerian penal code for Fraud offences.
So something doesn't look right.
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21 October 2022, 09:19
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: South Yorks
Boat name: Black Pig
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: DF140a
MMSI: 235111389
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 12,170
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Who’s going to send them an email enquiring about buying a boat then. We could have some sport.
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21 October 2022, 09:25
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Aberdeenshire
Boat name: Sula
Make: Ribcraft 4.8m
Length: 4m +
Engine: Tohatsu 70hp + aux
MMSI: 235087213
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 4,647
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They’ve got 35 RIBs listed for sale and linked to an address in the Wirral going by their VAT number. Now either that single garage is like the tardis, or you need Columbo on the case.
Their trading address is a residential street too.
Walk, would be my advice.
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Is that with or without VAT?
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21 October 2022, 09:28
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Member
Country: UK - England
Boat name: Redneck
Make: Excel
Length: 3m +
Engine: 20 efi & 9.8 2s
Join Date: Jul 2020
Posts: 3,464
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Quote:
Originally Posted by spartacus
They’ve got 35 RIBs listed for sale and linked to an address in the Wirral going by their VAT number. Now either that single garage is like the tardis, or you need Columbo on the case.
Their trading address is a residential street too.
Walk, would be my advice.
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To be fair I think someone has hacked the guy and its a case of identity fraud.
I think Andrew William Bissaker is a ligit self employed Marine Pilot and his wife is a nurse.
Edit: The guy is actually retired and knows that someone set up a fake website using his company. He had the website shut down earlier this year, but obviously they have started doing it again using the same pictures and details on a different site.
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21 October 2022, 09:29
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Member
Country: UK - England
Boat name: Redneck
Make: Excel
Length: 3m +
Engine: 20 efi & 9.8 2s
Join Date: Jul 2020
Posts: 3,464
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pikey Dave
Who’s going to send them an email enquiring about buying a boat then. We could have some sport.
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Go for it Dave
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21 October 2022, 12:09
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Member
Country: UK - England
Boat name: Redneck
Make: Excel
Length: 3m +
Engine: 20 efi & 9.8 2s
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Replies from an enquiry I made:-
Hi, I'm really interested in a rib that you have for sale. Can I make arrangements to come and view it please?
Regards,
Steve
Good afternoon Mr. Taylor,
The Gala Atlantis Deluxe 330L that you are interested in was under a leaseback contract, but the owner was unable to pay his monthly installments because his company has filed for bankruptcy as it's debts skyrocketed during the lockdown period so we took back it's possession.
In the present climate regarding this challenging times we set a low price to guarantee a sale. Now we are selling this boat for £5,200 Net Amount (excluding VAT) to recover the remaining debit of the leaseback contract and this is the final price for this boat with no other liabilities (debts) or hidden taxes to our company.
All prices shown on our website will be subject to VAT at 20%. For export, to qualify for zero VAT rate you must provide us with a valid VAT number with corresponding address.
This boat is in great shape, it was always been cleaned after every trip, washed and kept covered, so it's in beautiful condition. This boat comes with the trailer included.
Each boat we receive for sale is carefully inspected and serviced (Full Habitation Service and Full Mechanical Service) to ensure that it meets our highest standards. Every boat on sale on our website is supplied with a 12 months international warranty.
We have our own logistic division and we can offer you delivery services at reasonable rates. In order to minimize the costs of our transactions, we are billing only the fuel. We have weekly deliveries in UK and also in Europe from 2013.
If you are interested or if you need more information just let us know and we will be happy to assist you.
Kind Regards,
Paul Christopher Stone
CPS MARINE SERVICES
Hi Paul,
I am very interested but I would like to view the RIB first. Location of the RIB isn't a problem as I travel the whole of the UK with my job.
Regards,
Steve
Dear Mr. Taylor,
After very careful consideration in these very challenging times, we made the decision to temporarily closed all our 4 warehouses. As of today all our sales staff will be working from home. The boat are currently held in our warehouse from Penzance and we have no personnel available there to arrange a viewing/inspection (shortage of workers). This is the reason why you will have the 2 days return policy time to inspect the boat and the papers before give your final decision.
PLEASE NOTE: On delivery you will benefit of a 48 hours inspection period of the boat. During the 48 hours inspection period you can have the boat inspected by your local garage, we absolutely welcome any checks you want to perform on the boat and documents. If within 2 days of the date of delivery of your boat, you are not entirely satisfied with it, will take the boat back and refund you the payment. This is subject to the boat having not covered more than 500 nautical miles at the date of return. The boat should be in the same condition, and complete with any extras that were present upon sale.
In order to make you a complete offer and to estimate a shipping cost, please provide us with a postal code.
Kind Regards,
Paul Christopher Stone
CPS MARINE SERVICES
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21 October 2022, 12:45
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Aberdeenshire
Boat name: Sula
Make: Ribcraft 4.8m
Length: 4m +
Engine: Tohatsu 70hp + aux
MMSI: 235087213
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 4,647
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Originally Posted by Steve509926
During the 48 hours inspection period you can have the boat inspected by your local garage, we absolutely welcome any checks you want to perform on the boat and documents.
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What’s not to like. While it’s in the garage get the exhaust welded and change the oil!
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Is that with or without VAT?
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21 October 2022, 18:19
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Edinburgh
Boat name: no name
Make: Hydro force
Length: 3m +
Engine: outboard
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 244
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Hi all
I sent a message them aswell
And got the same reply
Good evening Mr. Scott,
We apologize for delayed answer, we had a lot of deliveries to make and it is quite difficult for us to coordinate everything now due to this challenging times. Sales have increased by over 50% this month, everything is selling pretty fast.
The Scorpion 8.5M that you are interested in was under a leaseback contract, but the owner was unable to pay his monthly installments because his company has filed for bankruptcy as it's debts skyrocketed during the lockdown period so we took back it's possession.
In the present climate regarding this challenging times we set a low price to guarantee a sale. Now we are selling this boat for £8,200 Net Amount (excluding VAT) to recover the remaining debit of the leaseback contract and this is the final price for this boat with no other liabilities (debts) or hidden taxes to our company.
All prices shown on our website will be subject to VAT at 20%. For export, to qualify for zero VAT rate you must provide us with a valid VAT number with corresponding address.
This boat is in great shape, it was always been cleaned after every trip, washed and kept covered, so it's in beautiful condition. This boat comes with the trailer included.
Each boat we receive for sale is carefully inspected and serviced (Full Habitation Service and Full Mechanical Service) to ensure that it meets our highest standards. Every boat on sale on our website is supplied with a 12 months international warranty.*
We have our own logistic division and we can offer you delivery services at reasonable rates. In order to minimize the costs of our transactions, we are billing only the fuel. We have*weekly*deliveries in UK and also in Europe from 2013.
If you are interested or if you need more information just let us know and we will be*happy*to assist you.
Kind Regards,
Paul Christopher Stone
CPS MARINE SERVICES
And didn't reply after I ask to view the rib on Monday.
Cheers Kevin
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