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Old 21 September 2005, 15:16   #1
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Mark Pascoe SR8

Hi, new to RIBs and am thinking of buying somthing in the region of £15k to £25k.

My needs are a RIB suitable for mooring nr Southampton for fun around the Isle of White which can carry approx 10 people, a mixed family crowd with ladies and children. A sundeck at front for relaxing days but enough performance for some fun and waterskiing.

Not sure whether to go for a new boat like a ribeye or avon, 6m ish and 115hp or a secondhand boat..

Has anyone got any views on the Mark Pascoe SR8 which does seem to fit my criteria, however are there any known faults I should look out for on such a boat which I think dates from 2001 and has got as 225hp mercury ?

Can anybody reccomend a good place for a pre purchase survey of a 2nd hand boat nr Southampton.

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Old 21 September 2005, 15:22   #2
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If it's this one you're looking at, check it with a fine tooth comb!!!

Mark Pascoe ribs are very fast boats (at the expense of a bit of sea keeping).

I think your major concerns on a 2001 boat are going to be:
  • Has it been kept tidy? White tubes are a bugger to keep clean!
  • Does the engine run smoothly, and what sort of service history has it got
  • Check for nicks underneath the hull from beaching, poor recovery onto trailer etc
  • Check for any nicks or scrapes on the propellor
  • Check all electronics thouroughly; do they work as they should
  • Check for any obvious cracks, or weak looking areas in the deck
  • Check for any evidence of repair jobs, patches on tubes, epoxy with paint on the hull etc

Other than that, engine specifics somebody more knowledgeable than me will reply with, but I always like a boat that when you're looking round, stuff like spare oil is kept on board.
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pre-purchase survey

Duncan (searider on rib.net) is your man for a survey, especially if boat is from atlantic web...
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Old 21 September 2005, 15:40   #4
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Well done grasshopper!

I am fairly certain that Pacoe didn't have a license for producing SR8 with outboards. If Pascoe did produce this boat then it will still look good! and be very well made.

If it was made by Prestige then it is a walk away job!

if you want it examined I suggest you ask Mark Pascoe to inspect it for you he's only up the river and will have an hourly rate.

Gareth Williams at Drivers Wharf worked for Pascoes for three years or so

Neil Holmes at Drivers Wharf would be able to cast an expert eye over it

if you want a proffesional survetyor then Searider from this forum is hard to beat
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There are a couple of useful threads in the Features section:

Buying a second hand RIB

Buying a new RIB

HTH and good luck with your search - it took us a year or so to find what we wanted! But it was worth it in the end!
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Hi Will.

You don't mention if you have any experience of fast craft?

Also, your "requirements" are a little contradictory. Carrying ten people in a RIB, or any other boat, is not a task to be taken lightly. To travel at speed, you need ten proper seats. The 6m RIBs you mentioned won't be capable of this, safely.

The Pascoe RIB looks good on paper, they are well respected boats. Before you start instructing a Marine Surveyor though, have a look yourself. I wouldn't be too surprised if that particular RIB doesn't exist.

And before you deal with Atlantic Web, do a search on here for "RIB charter fiasco". Here: http://www.rib.net/forum/showthread....charter+fiasco
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Some of the early Pascoe RIBS were all out speed machines - I looked into buying one but a bloke at the factory said it wouldn't be really suitable for general use - not often you speak to somebody so honest!!!
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Hi everyone
many thanks for your advice so far, much appreciated.
That is the boat from Atlantic and I have indeed spoken to 'Rups'
It would seem as an 'interesting' operator I would need to get any boat they are selling very carefully looked at... but that the consensus is a Mark Pascoe boat is a good quality, high end boat ?!
thanks again..
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I would agree with you wgiles, especially the point about carefully looking at the boat. This is something I would advise done with any boat, as any boat will only ever live up to how it was looked after. This might matter slightly less with some of the rougher tougher boats, however with something as glitzy as that pascoe, any imperfections will really show up.

If you speak to someone like the people on Rogue Wave's list, I'm sure you could go down there with them, and have them point out any good and bad points in full detail as and when you see them. I personally wouldn't send someone to look at a boat without me (if I was close enough) as something that might seem a major defect to them, might not be of so much importance to you!

It will most likely shift at WOT though Go look, tell us what you think, then if you buy it, come out for a play and show us your shiny rib!
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a Mark Pascoe boat is a good quality, high end boat ?!
No question about that!

Beware that, of course, when buying from a broker, you would want to make sure that title (ownership) of the goods passed to you on receipt of your payment.
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Old 21 September 2005, 19:29   #11
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Where was it made? Pascoes are in Hamble only three miles away from Warsash
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that boat has been forsale for sometime, i think it may have possibly been used for some sort of buisness. Recently come down in value.


My mate has an sr8, and another friend used to race one of the original non pascoe ones and its a mixed bag really,

firstly the tubes are very low so you sit ontop of boat not in it, also that hull is renouned for being a bit of a bitch in a following sea and with low tubes if you were after a serious offshore boat you would be looking at the wrong thing.

The build is very good, the console and seats are outhills and ok,
its a long and thin boat with amazing head sea ability, we have creamed across red jets wash head on four up at almost top speed (mates does 71mph) and the way these boats lift and lands is nothing short of amazing, no nose dives no head in the air just perfectly level and balanced, it recovers from chining in confused seas very well too. But its really an out and out race boat, can be tetchy on corners too although my mate creams his round like its on rails its scares the s**t outa me as they can barrell roll (not a ski boat for sure) I think pascoe used to offer driving lessons with the new boats so people could learn to respect em! not a 1st boat no doubt

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That is basically what the bloke told me - apparently the SR7 and 9 are more forgiving!!!
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yes the sr8 i believe is v24 hull bigger more agressive steps than sr7 and sr9 and the sr8 beam is similar to sr7 also, ita a fast and very good boat but not a novice drive
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Hi,

I don't have any first hand experience of the SR8 but have heard rumour of one developing cracks in the underside in the step areas - so that would be one area to look at closely.

Also, have a chat with your insurance broker to see what the cost / availability of insurance will be. Many insurers won't insure boats that do more than 50 knots and as this is your first RIB those that do may be reluctant.

With your requirements perhaps something a little more mainstream such as a Ribcraft / Ribtec might be better? Or a Ballistic if you really need a sunpad?

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Old 23 September 2005, 21:03   #16
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With your requirements perhaps something a little more mainstream such as a Ribcraft / Ribtec might be better? Or a Ballistic if you really need a sunpad?

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In that case you want to have a look at WhiteshooZ boat it does 47 knots with 6 people in it
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