Mass Produced Ribs.

[Hugh Jardon]

there is a lot to be said for having a look at what you cant see just as importantly as what you can see.....i am the same

Originally Posted by Jono

Yeah... probably... maybe the same reason a local boat builder (Hard boats and no-one on here.!!) won't welcome me back... well he did ask what I thought of his set up..... I think I was supposed to admire the elegant furniture in his craft and not lift all the hatches and poke around in the internal spaces...ho-hum...

[Cookee]

Originally Posted by Rogue Wave

Cookee, Paul I agree with what you are saying.

I don't know what your workload is but consider if you had to build say five hulls/tubes for the same order, would it be more or less cost effevtive for you to do so and would the quality standards be easier or harder to maintain.

I am not counting the costs of developing the mould or tube patterns as they would have already been done, I am just thinking of the production costs/effort

I don't think it would make much differance as to the costs - you would have to change your production techniques and employ more staff to produce more product. With more production it is then all down to the quality of the training and employing the right people to keep quality up and costs down.

[Cookee]

I should add that we welcome people at our factory and are in the process of setting up a webcam so that customers can see thier boat being built!

[Hugh Jardon]

that would be cool then we could all watch the action, would be like watching some live program like big brother


can we phone and prompt you if you are not working hard enough!!!!

Originally Posted by Cookee

I should add that we welcome people at our factory and are in the process of setting up a webcam so that customers can see thier boat being built!

[Mollers]

The guys in the factory might not be so keen! Anyone remember the Consumer prog on the TV a few years ago, when the cowboy washing machine repair guy was caught having a "five finger shuffle" behind the washing machine whils't being filmed on cctv?!! The "Housewife" was ironing in the dining room and he was pearing through the gap in the door. What the hell must his wife have thought?!!

[kitten]

Originally Posted by Hugh Jardon

can we phone and prompt you if you are not working hard enough!!!!

NO

[Cookee]

Originally Posted by Hugh Jardon

that would be cool then we could all watch the action, would be like watching some live program like big brother

Of course you can watch everything - all you need to do is place an order with the appropriate deposit .................. I think Kitten has adequately responded to your other remark ...............

[paul tilley]

not a rumour pete fact i have seen two elite ribs with chipboard for the transom , the third elite rib i saw was a set of tubes only the hull was at the bottom of the sea after the two parted company .no longer in business obviously

[Roy Smith]

I collected a Merc from the factory Bremam and as far as quality is concerned Eg. after every thirty SLs are bulit one is taken off the line and checked if its not up to the mark it goes back to the start. only 2 RIB makers i know encourage you to see your boat at differance stages of build
Picton Cobra and Scorpion. My friend as a Fairline Phamton 42 and he will tell anybody that he wont take it out unless its a max of slight to mordrate as it will self destruct.

[Jonny Fuller]

Originally Posted by Roy Smith

only 2 RIB makers i know encourage you to see your boat at differance stages of build
Picton Cobra and Scorpion.

There's a large picton rib at a marina in southampton, and when they pick it up in the slings, the hull distorts at the flange/chine where the weight is taken! and I don't mean a little bit!..it's a shocking site!

It hangs in the slings like a fkkn jelly!

[Richard B]

Originally Posted by Cookee

we... are in the process of setting up a webcam so that customers can see thier boat being built!

Hey Cookee, I hope your boys work as fast as Graham's!
http://www.scorpionribs.com/SCORPION%20web.mov
(right-click and "Save Target As..." works best for me, and you will need Quick-Time)

[codprawn]

Originally Posted by Jonny Fuller

There's a large picton rib at a marina in southampton, and when they pick it up in the slings, the hull distorts at the flange/chine where the weight is taken! and I don't mean a little bit!..it's a shocking site!

It hangs in the slings like a fkkn jelly!

Maybe it's supposed to??? Never seen stress cracks in a jelly.....

[Jono]

Originally Posted by Roy Smith

.. after every thirty SLs are bulit one is taken off the line and checked if its not up to the mark it goes back to the start. .

Pity they don't do the same with the SLKs ....or my (ex ) wife's must have been no. 29.......

[Cookee]

Originally Posted by Roy Smith

only 2 RIB makers i know encourage you to see your boat at differance stages of build Picton Cobra and Scorpion.

You can add BananaShark to that! Plus access to our webcam and stage photos to keep! Did I mention the hull waranty as well?

[Hugh Jardon]

Ospreys are happy for you to visit them to look at build and discuss layout, will have photos of the build as well

[Andy Gee]

Originally Posted by Cookee

You can add BananaShark to that! Plus access to our webcam and stage photos to keep! Did I mention the hull waranty as well?

You can go into Redbay at any time to see the boats getting built
Andy

[Jonny Fuller]

Originally Posted by codprawn

Maybe it's supposed to??? Never seen stress cracks in a jelly.....

Maybe, but that approach to structures requires a lot of uniformity in 'jellyness' tween structures, deck and hull skin, otherwise bits will get 'torn' from other bits when the distorting takes place.
I'm not sure it looked as calculated as that tho', and I definitely wouldn't wanna go fast in one, cos a good n proper high speed stuff would put it all to the test.

[Hugh Jardon]

Originally Posted by codprawn

Maybe it's supposed to??? Never seen stress cracks in a jelly.....

but would a jelly make a good fast hull...dont think so
i would have thought you need the boat to be as stiff as possible to have the best performance.......or am i wrong

[Jonny Fuller]

Originally Posted by Hugh Jardon

i would have thought you need the boat to be as stiff as possible to have the best performance.......or am i wrong

For sure, but i think what codders was getting at is, all structures have a certain amount of give/flex built in to them, other wise they'd be brittle, and a total failure could be possible.

Also, a calculated amount of flex can make a high performance boat handle better, by absorbing some of the vertical loadings.

In the highly competitive sport of OCR, Steve found it possible to build slightly quicker boats (top speed) by stiffening the running surface with more balsa core thickness etc, but they bacame harder to control in anything but flat racing conditions, because all the energy of clouting waves at 75mph was transmitted into launching the boat, rather than being absorbed by the semi flexible structure, kinda like suspension.

There's a lot more to building competitive race boats than meets the eye.

[codprawn]

Originally Posted by Jonny Fuller

For sure, but i think what codders was getting at is, all structures have a certain amount of give/flex built in to them, other wise they'd be brittle, and a total failure could be possible.

Also, a calculated amount of flex can make a high performance boat handle better, by absorbing some of the vertical loadings.

In the highly competitive sport of OCR, Steve found it possible to build slightly quicker boats (top speed) by stiffening the running surface with more balsa core thickness etc, but they bacame harder to control in anything but flat racing conditions, because all the energy of clouting waves at 75mph was transmitted into launching the boat, rather than being absorbed by the semi flexible structure, kinda like suspension.

There's a lot more to building competitive race boats than meets the eye.

Bloody hell - AT LAST people are starting to get my drift.....