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22 August 2013, 14:02
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Country: UK - England
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Boat name: Red Dog
Make: Porters Renegade
Length: 6m +
Engine: 150 HP Yamaha
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Max HP for a 6.5m Porters Renegade
Anyone out there know for sure the max HP and weight that a 6.5 Porters Renegade is rated for. Can't get an answer from Porters and their web site just states "most people are happy with a 120HP".
Thanks
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22 August 2013, 14:10
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Sorry, I don't have a definitive answer and it sounds like you're unlikely to get one. It might be worth having a marine engineer have a proper look at it.
I'd be staggered if it couldn't take at least a 150hp motor. I guess it comes down to the strength of the transom
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22 August 2013, 14:46
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Boat name: DynaMoHumm/ SRV/deja
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its the same craft as a Tohatsu one design or a Solent 6.5 if that helps
plenty of Solents with 200 on them but they run very sweet with a 150 opti. (the back end can be a bit twitchy under the hammer)
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22 August 2013, 15:40
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Fareham
Boat name: Red Dog
Make: Porters Renegade
Length: 6m +
Engine: 150 HP Yamaha
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rogue Wave
its the same craft as a Tohatsu one design or a Solent 6.5 if that helps
plenty of Solents with 200 on them but they run very sweet with a 150 opti. (the back end can be a bit twitchy under the hammer)
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Thanks, that was pretty much my thinking, but when you start looking for a used 150 they all disappear and 200s and 225 become very plentiful!! I will keep looking.
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23 August 2013, 23:34
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rogue Wave
its the same craft as a Tohatsu one design or a Solent 6.5 if that helps
plenty of Solents with 200 on them but they run very sweet with a 150 opti. (the back end can be a bit twitchy under the hammer)
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I don't mean to question your experience and obviously greater knowledge of RIBs than me Stu but are you sure it's the same Hull as a Solent or Tohatsu 6.5? I thought they were beamier and a shallower hull and were based on a BWM design. An older member, Mark ? had one with an upgraded Tohatsu 120 (140). He was pretty happy with its performance till the deck rotted out.
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23 August 2013, 23:39
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The Tohatsu One Design we had with n Opti 150 was very twitchy indeed. That hull was not rated to carry this engine. It had a 120hp limit if I remember correctly
www.BoatsandOutboards4Sale.co.uk
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24 August 2013, 04:18
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Originally Posted by Hightower
I don't mean to question your experience and obviously greater knowledge of RIBs than me Stu but are you sure it's the same Hull as a Solent or Tohatsu 6.5? I thought they were beamier and a shallower hull and were based on a BWM design. An older member, Mark ? had one with an upgraded Tohatsu 120 (140). He was pretty happy with its performance till the deck rotted out.
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Question it all you want mate wouldn't nr the first post I put up that was iffy.
OP please ignore my comments about HP and ratings sorry about that
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24 August 2013, 10:16
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Boat name: imposter
Make: FunYak
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Engine: Tohatsu 30HP
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There is a "formula" for working out the maximum design rating - my understanding is that you should only exceed this in the RCD ratings if you actually test and prove it is safe. This might prove a useful guide - it doesn't guarantee the transom is strong enough but it might be rough guide and if I remember correctly it is reasonably conservative? Search my posts for 'ISO maximum' and you might find it.
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24 August 2013, 18:44
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This is a big if... But if the Porters Renegade 6.5 is the same as the BWM Deepsea 21 then this might be of interest to you: http://www.rib.net/forum/f8/bwm-deep...ded-29409.html
Wasn't it a Paul Lemmer design, might be worth contacting him if it was.
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25 August 2013, 10:13
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I have a 2004 6.5m Porters which is rated to 140hp on the CE plate.
To settle the argument: The Solent and Tohatsu 6.5 are the same hull, originally a Phantom design. The BWM Deep Sea 21 is a Lemmer design which I gather was "acquired" by Porters. This has a wider beam and flared bow. Porters did also make a 6.5 which is based on the same Phanton hull used in the Solent and Tohatsu models. Complicated!!
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25 August 2013, 15:35
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tim M
I have a 2004 6.5m Porters which is rated to 140hp on the CE plate.
To settle the argument: The Solent and Tohatsu 6.5 are the same hull, originally a Phantom design. The BWM Deep Sea 21 is a Lemmer design which I gather was "acquired" by Porters. This has a wider beam and flared bow. Porters did also make a 6.5 which is based on the same Phanton hull used in the Solent and Tohatsu models. Complicated!!
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As clear as Mud then
Can you post a picture of your RIB so that we can identify which one it is?
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25 August 2013, 18:27
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Boat name: Red Dog
Make: Porters Renegade
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hightower
As clear as Mud then
Can you post a picture of your RIB so that we can identify which one it is?
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Hope these help
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25 August 2013, 19:11
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Are solent Ribs still in operation?
I may have misheard and sorry if i have but something about fairweather marine issues and something like that!
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26 August 2013, 07:58
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Quote:
Originally Posted by matt h
Are solent Ribs still in operation?
I may have misheard and sorry if i have but something about fairweather marine issues and something like that!
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On Daedalus Airfield? If so, yes - I visited them very recently
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26 August 2013, 12:19
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I've had a look though your photo's and can't identify it as a BWM Deepsea 21 hull, but it's not a Solent/Tohatsu hull either.
This old advert might be helpful to you in identifying it for you. It's being sold with an Evinrude 175hp
SECOND HAND PORTERS 175 FICHT RIB - £13,950.00
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26 August 2013, 16:05
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Boat name: Red Dog
Make: Porters Renegade
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hightower
I've had a look though your photo's and can't identify it as a BWM Deepsea 21 hull, but it's not a Solent/Tohatsu hull either.
This old advert might be helpful to you in identifying it for you. It's being sold with an Evinrude 175hp
SECOND HAND PORTERS 175 FICHT RIB - £13,950.00
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Thanks Andy
My gut feel is that it would take a 150 comfortably, it is a heavy lay up with a very solid transom compared to may similar sized RIBs that I have looked at. Just a case of finding the right one.
Regards
Andy
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26 August 2013, 16:16
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jlanng
On Daedalus Airfield? If so, yes - I visited them very recently
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Brill. i did see a fab 6.5 mtr in Bembridge marine in the showroom.. Sorry off topic..
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