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22 November 2003, 17:00
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Med Style Ribs - RIB International
I see there are some poor comments with regards to Med Style Ribs and how they handle within UK waters in this months edition of Rib International.
Anyone own a med style rib? how do they find it handles in UK waters?
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23 November 2003, 13:00
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Yep, I noted Mr. Malletts comments about med style boats being positively dangerous in UK waters. Perhaps the water here is more slippery than the Med. I'm never going out in my Magnum again.
I must remember to buy a Humber next time
DM
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23 November 2003, 16:48
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I wouldn't be so quick to make a distinction between Med & UK waters. There can be substantial seas in the Med, which can form very quickly due to the higher surface tension of the saltier water.
If 'Med style' means shallow V & bench seat then your going to limit your cruising whether your at 43N or 53N!
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23 November 2003, 16:58
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Quote:
Originally posted by oceanpro
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23 November 2003, 17:22
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Its true mate. Brandon et al, Corsica & North Sardinia Pilot, Imray Publications (page 6)
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23 November 2003, 20:35
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Welcome to the Forum buddy, if you have to much trouble with Digi I'll set Britt on him.
Cheers
Stuart
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24 November 2003, 21:14
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Good to hear from you, how's 1st Wave?
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The South of France RYA Sea School
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24 November 2003, 21:58
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somewhere between surviving and being a liability, but it's looking good for next year. we need to buy a Tractor then things will get easier
I'll give you a call, soon
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24 November 2003, 22:02
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I was messingt about in the south of spain last summer and there was 3-4 foot chop on the med one day. I wouldnt fancy beign out in any smallish rib in that weather. A shallow vee and bench seat would have left you about 2 inches shorter that day.
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25 November 2003, 08:37
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Quote:
Originally posted by simmons0
A shallow vee and bench seat would have left you about 2 inches shorter that day.
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Why?
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25 November 2003, 08:56
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Deep V
My Med Style RIB has the deepest god damn "V" you've ever seen.
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25 November 2003, 08:56
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You really are a complete ass dirk or you just go out of your way to piss people off. Have you ever tried to sit on your ass while flying through waves that big? at least on a jockey seat you can use your legs to absorb the shock.
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25 November 2003, 19:22
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Quote:
Originally posted by simmons0
there was 3-4 foot chop on the med one day.
Have you ever tried to sit on your ass while flying through waves that big?
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What are you, gay or just lacking a little experience, If you think a 3-4 foot chop is "that big" then you really shouldn't be on this forum, everyone knows a true ribber only goes out in a hurricane!
As for me being a complete arse, maybe, I'm sure there is a lot of people on this forum that would agree, but hey, so what..
You really need to get out in a few more ribs, both jockeyed and seated, and experience what a well driven rib is capable of! Although I would agree that a jockey seat is excellent up to around 40-45 mph, you really can't beat a proper seat at speed.
Blag yourself a ride at 70+mph some day, and then tell me which type of seat you prefer. Ever wondered why an F1 or F2 rib doesn't have jockeys, it's cause you need to be in control, which means seated properly, and not having to use your energy, and your knees to stay in the boat!
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25 November 2003, 19:55
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Originally posted by Dirk Diggler
As for me being a complete arse, maybe, I'm sure there is a lot of people on this forum that would agree, but hey, so what..
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I disagree Dirk youre not a complete arse! you still havee a little way to go yet
I managed to get a ride in Banana Shark on one of the poker runs and that was most certainly moving and bouncing and I guess it was up around 70 mph, The shark had comfy chair type seats and it didn't hurt my back, which started me wondering why Jockeys were sooooooh popular
Also I believe Alan Priddy has truck seats in the Jolly Sailor and Mark Pascoe ribs and Buzzis all come with seats and not Jockeys.
having said all that I prefer Jockeys on my relatively slow RIB.
cheers
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25 November 2003, 20:42
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Originally posted by thewavehumper
I disagree Dirk youre not a complete arse! you still havee a little way to go yet
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Yeh, but with guidance from you I'm sure I could make it!
Is it correct you favour an "ejector seat"?
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25 November 2003, 21:22
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Nice one
re ejector seat only in the warmer weather
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27 November 2003, 11:29
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Yep, I noted Mr. Malletts comments about med style boats being positively dangerous in UK waters.
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Not making a disinction between the med or other waters-
or the hulls themselves
-simply making the point that putting all the weight of consol, passengers/crew, heavy engine(s), hefty "A" frame, and fuel tanks at the back end of a boat is not a recipe for a balanced boat. Pushing that sort of rig,with no weight in the front end, into a head sea is a nightmare.
As for the comment about"buying a Humber" it was one of theirs that I refused to drive on a boat test when fitted out that way on a particularly nasty day on the Humber estuary! Like i said take a perfectly good hull and then ruin it by fitting it out with everything at the back end.
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27 November 2003, 11:41
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Well, thanks for those comments, which, I've passed to Zodiac, Avon, Caribe and several other who also push everything to the back.
After all I'm sure all those millions of pounds and thousands of hours R&D coupled with years of experience need not be wasted, when in fact, all they need to do was canvas your opinion.
Further, I'm sure Humber reconfigured their RIB as soon as they could !
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27 November 2003, 11:58
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ho hum
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27 November 2003, 13:34
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I would have to agree the a "med style" boat isn't fun in lumpy water.
I don't think that anyone can disagree that sitting on a bench seat with a swing back that moves under the slightest pressure isn't comfortable. You either slide off, or perhaps even worse, you end up so close to your passenger, that you look like a couple of Siamese Twins. Don't try to steady yourself by holding on to the back rest, as soon as you are thrown forwards, the flipping thing will follow you, pining you to the wheel!
My new rib has Jockey seats for the driver and co, I still left the bench at the back, good for storage, comprise for me in the winter, the wife in the summer.
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